Are 70's era Miyata bikes desirable?
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Are 70's era Miyata bikes desirable?
I'm looking at a CL post of what the seller says is a Miyata bike. The pic is so blurry I can't tell if there are 2 or 3 chain rings, but the seller says there are 2. The shifters are mounted on the handlebar stem (which is why I think it is from the 70's), and the paint color is blue. I was looking for a touring bike, but I guess this is not it. Should I go look at it anyway?
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Should you go look at it? Kinda hard to know without more details (including the asking price).
If you're looking for a touring bike, this doesn't sound like one. Not as currently configured, at least. The frame geometry might be suited for it -- again, without pics or details, who knows -- but a touring bike would typically have a triple crankset and probably wouldn't be outfitted with stem shifters.
If you're looking for a touring bike, this doesn't sound like one. Not as currently configured, at least. The frame geometry might be suited for it -- again, without pics or details, who knows -- but a touring bike would typically have a triple crankset and probably wouldn't be outfitted with stem shifters.
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Should you go look at it? Kinda hard to know without more details (including the asking price).
If you're looking for a touring bike, this doesn't sound like one. Not as currently configured, at least. The frame geometry might be suited for it -- again, without pics or details, who knows -- but a touring bike would typically have a triple crankset and probably wouldn't be outfitted with stem shifters.
If you're looking for a touring bike, this doesn't sound like one. Not as currently configured, at least. The frame geometry might be suited for it -- again, without pics or details, who knows -- but a touring bike would typically have a triple crankset and probably wouldn't be outfitted with stem shifters.
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Seller has it in a storage building, and it's raining so it's a hassle to go out there and look for me right now, but they say there are no head badges and a friend says it has nice components. They are asking $150, but I can't see from the out of focus pic if it has the eyelets for rack attachment. I guess that's part of the adventure of CL listings.
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Too much adventure...without better pictures or more information from the CL poster, I would pass on this one...stem shifters, built in kickstand, apparently (although hard to tell) bolt on wheels...all lead one to believe that this is low end...
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For sure a lower end Miyata. Looks like a 110 model maybe, but it's older than the bikes I usually go for. I think it is worth a look but $150 is too high for this more like $50 unless it is absolutely perfect! Even then maybe $100. These lower end Miyatas do have nice quality but it won't have rack eyelets or even water bottle bosses.
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Most Japanese bikes from the 1970s were lower end. There are exceptions of course. Myata made a full product line, including a lot of low end stuff. The earlier the bike, the more likely it is going to be low end. Stem shifters are a clue.
If you want a touring bike, you need to raise your budget and focus on the myriad of nice touring bikes, from Japan and elsewhere, most of which were made in the 1980s. Pretty easy to spot cantilever brakes, triple crankset, often bar end shifters, braze ons for racks and fenders, long cage RD, etc.
Lots of knowledgeable buyers in Charlotte. The fact it has been for sale for 11 days is a C L U E.
The specifications for most bikes changed dramatically throughout the 1980s, usually for the better.
If you want a touring bike, you need to raise your budget and focus on the myriad of nice touring bikes, from Japan and elsewhere, most of which were made in the 1980s. Pretty easy to spot cantilever brakes, triple crankset, often bar end shifters, braze ons for racks and fenders, long cage RD, etc.
Lots of knowledgeable buyers in Charlotte. The fact it has been for sale for 11 days is a C L U E.
The specifications for most bikes changed dramatically throughout the 1980s, usually for the better.
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That guy in the NC mtns with a lot of bikes is a pretty good place to look for a touring bike in your size esp. since you don't know quite what you're looking for. The features Thrifty Bill talks about in post no. 6 is pretty much what you are looking for (triple crank, cantilever brakes, etc.) Here's the problem, touring bikes don't pop often and it has to be in your size or it's no good to you. You're best bet may be to find a vintage mtb (one with a rigid fork). Those can make darn good touring bikes with a bit of tweaking and they can be found (unlike vintage touring bikes) at a reasonable price (again unlike vintage touring bikes which tend to command a premium). Personally if I were looking for a touring bike in your area, I'd talk to that guy in the NC mtns with the vintage touring bikes.
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Thanks much for the tips. I am not hampered by budget so much as lack of knowledge of which specific models are touring rather than sport/road bikes. I did a search for touring bikes ('touring' in title) but did not find any posted for sale 11 days ago. Can you give me a bigger hint, such as a brand or model?
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The Novara Safari is a capable touring bike. What are you looking for that that bike does not fulfill? Also you have two coveted Bridgestone speed machines!
I'd recommend going to see @wrk101 for a bike. If he's too far away, post your height here and maybe we can help scout a frame that fits, because that comes first. The Miyata above is for a rider about 5'10-6'1".
I'd recommend going to see @wrk101 for a bike. If he's too far away, post your height here and maybe we can help scout a frame that fits, because that comes first. The Miyata above is for a rider about 5'10-6'1".
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That guy in the NC mtns with a lot of bikes is a pretty good place to look for a touring bike in your size esp. since you don't know quite what you're looking for. The features Thrifty Bill talks about in post no. 6 is pretty much what you are looking for (triple crank, cantilever brakes, etc.) Here's the problem, touring bikes don't pop often and it has to be in your size or it's no good to you. You're best bet may be to find a vintage mtb (one with a rigid fork). Those can make darn good touring bikes with a bit of tweaking and they can be found (unlike vintage touring bikes) at a reasonable price (again unlike vintage touring bikes which tend to command a premium). Personally if I were looking for a touring bike in your area, I'd talk to that guy in the NC mtns with the vintage touring bikes.
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The Novara Safari is a capable touring bike. What are you looking for that that bike does not fulfill? Also you have two coveted Bridgestone speed machines!
I'd recommend going to see @wrk101 for a bike. If he's too far away, post your height here and maybe we can help scout a frame that fits, because that comes first. The Miyata above is for a rider about 5'10-6'1".
I'd recommend going to see @wrk101 for a bike. If he's too far away, post your height here and maybe we can help scout a frame that fits, because that comes first. The Miyata above is for a rider about 5'10-6'1".
I am in the height range for the 25 inch frame listed, which is why I was looking at it.
And yes, I could do light/credit card touring on one of my Bridgestone bikes, even get an ExtraWheel trailer to limit the weight load added to the bike's rear wheel, but would it really be comfortable? If I could find a touring bike it would be better, I think. And some people might have bikes they don't really know about, such as the folks who listed the Miyata above. They truly don't know what model they have. Too bad it's not what I need.
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Motobecane Grand Touring $200 - early 1980s editions are great with Vitus Framesets. Get some photos from seller.
Motobecane Grand Touring Road Bike
Miyata 215 ST -$160
https://charlotte.craigslist.org/bik/4757292046.html
Motobecane Grand Touring Road Bike
Miyata 215 ST -$160
https://charlotte.craigslist.org/bik/4757292046.html
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Motobecane Grand Touring $200 - early 1980s editions are great with Vitus Framesets. Get some photos from seller.
Motobecane Grand Touring Road Bike
Miyata 215 ST -$160
Miyata 21 st road bike 160$ - OBO
Motobecane Grand Touring Road Bike
Miyata 215 ST -$160
Miyata 21 st road bike 160$ - OBO
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Hey, Mike,
Your RB-1 is way sweet, and you will find the right touring bike! I like the mountain idea - Let's go!
Your RB-1 is way sweet, and you will find the right touring bike! I like the mountain idea - Let's go!
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I picked up a Miyata Gran Touring from a fellow Forum member on a trade. Here it is but it does not have a designated wheelset yet. Where does this lie on the desireability scale? I am unsure of the year but have read that it is the predecessor of the Miyata 1000's. I want to have it finished and rolling for an early spring ride so any wheelset suggestions are welcome also.
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I picked up a Miyata Gran Touring from a fellow Forum member on a trade. Here it is but it does not have a designated wheelset yet. Where does this lie on the desireability scale? I am unsure of the year but have read that it is the predecessor of the Miyata 1000's. I want to have it finished and rolling for an early spring ride so any wheelset suggestions are welcome also.
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Nice score!
Classic, 27 or 700c
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Performance - great value for 105 hubs
Mavic CXP22 Shimano 105 Hubs All Silver Road Bike Wheels 32h [66801 & 66802 or 66803] - $139.00 Velomine.com : Worldwide Bicycle Shop, fixed gear track bike wheelsets campagnolo super record vintage bike
Classic, 27 or 700c
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Performance - great value for 105 hubs
Mavic CXP22 Shimano 105 Hubs All Silver Road Bike Wheels 32h [66801 & 66802 or 66803] - $139.00 Velomine.com : Worldwide Bicycle Shop, fixed gear track bike wheelsets campagnolo super record vintage bike
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Assuming the canti brakes are set up for 700c, I'd get the Mavic CXP22/105s.
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Yep the previous owner had them set up with 700c's.
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Motobecane Grand Touring $200 - early 1980s editions are great with Vitus Framesets. Get some photos from seller.
Motobecane Grand Touring Road Bike
Miyata 215 ST -$160
Miyata 21 st road bike 160$ - OBO
Motobecane Grand Touring Road Bike
Miyata 215 ST -$160
Miyata 21 st road bike 160$ - OBO
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Thanks, I do appreciate that evaluation. It is way lighter than my Safari, for sure. I will visit a Charlotte ex-touring guy (with a garage full of road and touring bikes he has rehabbed) tomorrow, just to see what he has to compare. Regarding the 215 ST, assuming I get it, should I keep it all original or modify to suit, i.e., change down tube shifters to bar end or something else? I like the trekking bars on my Safari; would it be heresy to put some like it on the Miyata (obviously no bar end shifters in that case)?
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