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CL listing: 91 Stumpjumper, should I do it?

Here is the original link: Specialized Stumpjumper Comp

It's a tad big for me (I typically like 15-17in frames) but it seems to be all original and exactly what I am looking for.

What should I be willing to pay?
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Are you sure it would be a tad too big? Not sure how tall you are and I know that various years have different geometries, etc., but for reference, I'm 5'6" & my '90 Trek 930 is 16.5" & my '88 Rockhopper Comp is 17".

I live near Portland, Oregon & bike market is described as "hot" here, and at that price it would take just the right buyer for that bike. The price seems a little high for me, but for the right buyer who is looking for something specific it could be worth it.

Is the bike in a place you could go see it & check fit, etc.?
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Originally Posted by Crawford53
Here is the original link: Specialized Stumpjumper Comp

It's a tad big for me (I typically like 15-17in frames) but it seems to be all original and exactly what I am looking for.

What should I be willing to pay?
$350 -- you could offer 325 for shirts n giggles , but the guy seems to be pretty full of himself on what the bike is worth, so if you go too lowball, he probably just wont respond

how tall are you--- if you're 5'3 - 5'4 or so id pass but if your closer to 5'6 ish - 5'8' go for it - the bike has a helluva long stem and you can easilly get a little more reach by going shorter-- top tube doesnt look super long either

unless its been up there on CL for awhile, i wouldnt mess around too much with trying to lowball it --- the purchase price is low enough that it will be forgotten after your first trail ride if it works out
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$350 -- you could offer 325 for shirts n giggles , but the guy seems to be pretty full of himself on what the bike is worth, so if you go too lowball, he probably just wont respond

how tall are you--- if you're 5'3 - 5'4 or so id pass but if your closer to 5'6 ish - 5'8' go for it - the bike has a helluva long stem and you can easilly get a little more reach by going shorter-- top tube doesnt look super long either

unless its been up there on CL for awhile, i wouldnt mess around too much with trying to lowball it --- the purchase price is low enough that it will be forgotten after your first trail ride if it works out
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I'm 5'4". It's been up for about a month, I think I'm going to pass. I'm not willing to pay near what he is asking. Wish it was more in my price range, because it's pretty sweet!
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I would vote "pass". $350 for a used moutain bike, is high. I would not go higher than $200. Eventhough it looks like a great bike, there is a good chance it will need cables/housing/tires/brake pads/chain/complete re-greasing and lube. That, even if you do all the work yourself, is closing in on $100 or more. seller has sold himself on the value of his item. I doubt he would get $300.
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Beautiful bike though. I have a 91 team stumpjumper and a 1988 stumpjumper comp. I really like the grey on this bike.
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Per Bicycle Blue Book. Com, a 1999 Stumpjumper Comp is worth $377 in like new condition. No way I would pay $350 for a 91. I agree with fender1, i wouldn't go over $200. And that's if I absolutely have to have it.
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Pricey. Entirely too pricey.
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Steel MTB prices are creeping up...and they're still so under valued that I'm surprised the creep is so slow. I think I'd have a hard time getting $350 in my area, but it's possible with a good add. It's very high end and has nice parts. I guess there are a few ways to look at it...is that more than they usually sell for? Yes. Is the bike intrinsically worth that? I think it is. Bikes like this are getting harder and harder to find, and my guess is that we will see a price explosion within the next few years.

It's odd...everyone generally puts a bike like this at around 200-250ish...including me...but you don't see many like it anymore. They're hard to find, though they also don't sell that quickly when you do find them. Honestly, it I wanted one, and if it fit, I'd probably be willing to pay the $350, even knowing they usually sell for less. They have, IMO, a LOT of intrinsic value.

As far as if it's worth it to you...with the size issues...I'd pass.

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I sold one an identical one recently that was in great shape, but was in worse cosmetic condition for $150. I tried to sell it on and off for a couple months at $180 and got no hits.

Let him sell it for $500 on eBay.

It is a great bike though, just not at that price.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
Steel MTB prices are creeping up...and they're still so under valued that I'm surprised the creep is so slow. I think I'd have a hard time getting $350 in my area, but it's possible with a good add. It's very high end and has nice parts. I guess there are a few ways to look at it...is that more than they usually sell for? Yes. Is the bike intrinsically worth that? I think it is. Bikes like this are getting harder and harder to find, and my guess is that we will see a price explosion within the next few years.

It's odd...everyone generally puts a bike like this at around 200-250ish...including me...but you don't see many like it anymore. They're hard to find, though they also don't sell that quickly when you do find them. Honestly, it I wanted one, and if it fit, I'd probably be willing to pay the $350, even knowing they usually sell for less. They have, IMO, a LOT of intrinsic value.

As far as if it's worth it to you...with the size issues...I'd pass.
+ 1. Quality vintage steel mtbs are getting harder to find, prices are creeping up, and the bike has a lot of intrinsic value.
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Originally Posted by bikemig
+ 1. Quality vintage steel mtbs are getting harder to find, prices are creeping up, and the bike has a lot of intrinsic value.
I guess I view it like this...

A bike like this is at least comparable in quality and utility to a tange 2, shimano 600 Japanese sports bike that would sell easily for 350-400. To me, these selling for $200 is more the market being wonky than a reflection of their value. There is very little difference in what a bike like this sells for vs. what a hard rock would sell for. I bought my Rocky Mountain in excellent condition, with tange prestige, XT and upgrades for sub 200...and the guy had a hard time finding a buyer. I just don't get it.

It also takes a long time to find these...so I just don't get the low market. To me bikes like this are AWESOME, versatile city/utility platforms. How much would you pay for a Surly/Soma, fetc. with the equal of Tange prestige?
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I have a '91 Stumpjumper that I bought off CL last year and did a drop conversion for a commuter. I love it, but in a hot market (Twin Cities) I spent significantly less than half the asking price on the one you linked. Wait for the price to drop or offer what you feel comfortable with.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
I guess I view it like this...

A bike like this is at least comparable in quality and utility to a tange 2, shimano 600 Japanese sports bike that would sell easily for 350-400. To me, these selling for $200 is more the market being wonky than a reflection of their value. There is very little difference in what a bike like this sells for vs. what a hard rock would sell for. I bought my Rocky Mountain in excellent condition, with tange prestige, XT and upgrades for sub 200...and the guy had a hard time finding a buyer. I just don't get it.

It also takes a long time to find these...so I just don't get the low market. To me bikes like this are AWESOME, versatile city/utility platforms. How much would you pay for a Surly/Soma, fetc. with the equal of Tange prestige?
I agree and love this type of bike for its value and utiliy. Those are things that many, less experienced buyers know or care little about. IME, selling stuff on CL, No disc brakes? Fail. No suspesion fork? Fail. Only 7 speeds? Fail. Steel frame=heavy? Fail. "Old technolgy". Fail.
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If you want a steel stumpy get a 95 on, You get oversized Prestige tubing , suspension corrected geometry to around 63 mm travel and a 1 1/8 headtube. These are substantial improvements that effect the CL pricing very little in the scheme of things.
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Originally Posted by Fred Smedley
If you want a steel stumpy get a 95 on, You get oversized Prestige tubing , suspension corrected geometry to around 63 mm travel and a 1 1/8 headtube. These are substantial improvements that effect the CL pricing very little in the scheme of things.
I don't really think those are substantial improvements for how most of these will be used.
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Two weeks from now when he still has it, offer $250 and see what happens. Some sellers overvalue items and don't come down. There's a difference between a value and a deal. In mtbs of that era you should expect both a value and a deal.

That at said I did pay $300 for a pristine paramount mtb series 90 a year back. But imo there were many more early 90's stumpys than suntour xc pro equipped paramounts. If BBC is any indication, I paid 10 cents on the dollar
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
I guess I view it like this...

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It also takes a long time to find these...so I just don't get the low market. To me bikes like this are AWESOME, versatile city/utility platforms. How much would you pay for a Surly/Soma, fetc. with the equal of Tange prestige?
exactly -- in 1991 , Deore XT was the high end group as well (wait- xtr came out in 91 - so never mind) -- regardless, XT was a very nice set of parts back then , and it has the thumbies, instead of the early rapidfire setups that had mixed reviews

I'd look at a bike like this as an awesome platform to build a kick butt "townie" type bike --- or ---------- wait for it ------ wait for it ------ put some fresh tires on and take it for a trail ride!

I have been riding high end full suspension bikes for a long time now, but i admit, -- i took out an old MArin mountain bike i had and had a blast --- full rigid, cantilever brakes, and 11-28 cassette (vs 11-34 on my new bikes) and a Loooong Norba inspired top tube ---- The bike was seriously fun to ride and i enjoyed re-visiting the recent past

If my trails were a bit smoother, full rigid is all i would need ever

(but then again, the Crawford53 (the OP) did chime in with his height and the bike looks a tad big -- - )
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It's too big for a person 5'4"
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Originally Posted by Crawford53
Here is the original link: Specialized Stumpjumper Comp

It's a tad big for me (I typically like 15-17in frames) but it seems to be all original and exactly what I am looking for.

What should I be willing to pay?
A LOT of things about ads make me laugh, but the frequent use of comparisons to ebay auctions is near the top. I took a quick peek and found one completed sale on a '90s Stumpy and it didn't come close to his asking price and nowhere close to $500.00 plus shipping.

If I wanted to be snarky, I'd ask why he doesn't just sell it on the 'bay. I guess the fees are too much? Doesn't want the hassle of shipping? Offer what YOU think is fair. If it isn't good enough, move on, another one will come along.
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Paid $40 for this complete but mish-mash, partial original equipped. Could care less about value as they make for a great all-rounder rider. Slow process but being built with stuff from the B.O.C. and whatever I come across for next to zero. It will end up as something as a road drop. Like the Chainbreaker IPA decal? lol









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Originally Posted by crank_addict
Paid $40 for this complete but mish-mash, partial original equipped. Could care less about value as they make for a great all-rounder rider. Slow process but being built with stuff from the B.O.C. and whatever I come across for next to zero. It will end up as something as a road drop. Like the Chainbreaker IPA decal? lol


Sweet, I paid $125 for a complete 1988 stumpjumper comp with deore xt parts.

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Pass, at least 2X what I would pay.
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not worth the hassle as the high price doesn't make it a wash if it doesn't fit
I'm 5'9" and ride 17" vintage mtb bikes. Can go as big as 19" with a short stem and riser bars on mild trails.
15" frames are probably already on the high end for you
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