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Preferences: Miele Uno 12 or Miyata One Ten ?

Old 06-16-15, 03:14 PM
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Preferences: Miele Uno 12 or Miyata One Ten ?

Assuming that either bike would fit, which of these bikes is the better deal ??

1 - Miele Uno 12 with Ishiwata 1430 cro-moly frame and all Japanese alloy components Sugino crank set, Araya alloy wheels, Shimano Light Action SIS, for $40

2 - Miyata One Ten (1985 ?) with triple butted Miyata steel frame and all alloy Japanese components, Araya alloy wheels, friction shifters, for $20.

The Miyata appears to be in much better condition (cosmetics) than the Miele but indications on this forum are that entry-level bottom-of-the-barrel Miyatas are basically scrap.
The Miele is cosmetically a bit rougher but it does have the Ishiwata frame and the indexed shifters. Unfortunately, at $40 it costs twice as much as the Miyata....

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Old 06-16-15, 04:04 PM
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I think it is a moot point unless you play center for the Ontario Ospreys. They both look like 27" frames to me if not that are 25ers for sure. You need to around 6"4"+ for those puppies.
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I have paid as much as $100 for a Miyata 110. I have sold a refurbed, ready to ride 110 in red for $235. BTW, you're supposed to spell out Japanese, not use the politically incorrect slur.
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Originally Posted by oddjob2
I have paid as much as $100 for a Miyata 110. I have sold a refurbed, ready to ride 110 in red for $235. BTW, you're supposed to spell out Japanese, not use the politically incorrect slur.

Fixed.
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Gotta be 27" frames, but at those prices , get both .
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll
I think it is a moot point unless you play center for the Ontario Ospreys. They both look like 27" frames to me if not that are 25ers for sure. You need to around 6"4"+ for those puppies.

Yes - Miele 64cm

Miyata 69cm.... but for $20 I could not resist.

Sometimes I stretch a bit.
I do not like small bikes.

Last years bike is an old Steve Bauer Sirocco.
I had a big red Bianchi as well but it was desperately desired by someone else with deeper pockets & longer arms.


Do you get Steve Bauer bikes in the States or are they just a Canadian thing ?



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OH Ya we get those Canuck bikes down this way, not often though eh.

If the wheels and derailleurs are in good shape you can always stripe it and put the parts on a better fitting frame.
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Originally Posted by Binky
Fixed.
No slur intended.

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How ist it you keep finding these steals whenthe rest of the Canadians rant about high C&V prices in Toronto, Montreal, and that city on the west coast?
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Originally Posted by oddjob2
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How ist it you keep finding these steals whenthe rest of the Canadians rant about high C&V prices in Toronto, Montreal, and that city on the west coast?
Once you get away from the above named big urban centres you find that Canada is a country where older racing bikes are considered pass, obsolete, antiquated, old-fashioned, passed, and out of fashion. Kids these days want mountain bikes & BMX stuff.

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Its my wife.
She drags them home.
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Binky,

Did you buy both bikes? If you did I like to see better picturess of the Miele Uno. I own an 85 Miele Condor and don't see that many Miele's on this forum. I enjoy riiding my Miele Condor and find it to be a well balanced and great riding bike. Miele's don't seem to have much of a following on this forum.
I think they are very underrated as bikes worth owning.
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Did you buy both bikes? If you did I like to see better picturess of the Miele Uno. I own an 85 Miele Condor and don't see that many Miele's on this forum. I enjoy riiding my Miele Condor and find it to be a well balanced and great riding bike. Miele's don't seem to have much of a following on this forum.
I think they are very underrated as bikes worth owning.
Of course I grabbed them both. The Miele is a bit scruffy but it will clean up nicely.

I cannot imagine passing on a Miyata like this one selling for the price of a large pizza (pepperoni, anchovies, double cheese) and two Cokes.




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Originally Posted by Binky
Of course I grabbed them both. The Miele is a bit scruffy but it will clean up nicely.

I cannot imagine passing on a Miyata like this one selling for the price of a large pizza (pepperoni, anchovies, double cheese) and two Cokes.
In US dollars, it is a $16 Miyata and a $32 Miele. WOW!
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Great its only 0930 and I am hungry for pizza now.
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll
Great its only 0930 and I am hungry for pizza now.
Funny I'm feeling the same way but atleast its after 5:00 PM.
I'd like to see some more pictures of the Miele as I haven't seen many on this site or anywhere for that matter.
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I owned an '87 Miele Condor at one time and liked it a lot. A bit on the small size so I passed it on.
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That is a HUGE Miyata!!!! The Miele is big enough, but, wow...that Miyata!

But...if given the chance, for $20...yep, would have jumped on it too...although it would have come up to my head! :-)
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And that is exactly how to find cheap bikes, in just about any market. No, I don't mean let Mrs. You do it. What I mean is get out there and actually hunt. Clicking from one listing to another is easy, but it is not the way to fine bikes like this for free...

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The Miyata is a better deal better components and tubing. Note the Miele has some cheaper steel components seat post, likely bars and cheap tires and seat, no brake hoods looks like the bars might just be taped with some kind of none bike tape. While very similar bikes nearly all of the details are just a bit nicer on the Miyata.
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Originally Posted by randyjawa
And that is exactly how to find cheap bikes, in just about any market. No, I don't mean let Mrs. You do it. What I mean is get out there and actually hunt. Clicking from one listing to another is easy, but it is not the way to fine bikes like this for free...


You, sir, have been an inspiration to me (and to my wife).

Because of your website there are about 60 old bikes in the house... Canadian, American, Italian, French, and Japanese.

Need I say more ??

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