hansmanos

Hi,

I'm new to vintage bikes and got a crazy idea about wanting to restore a vintage-ish bike. Completely new to bike restoration, but I'm handy and fix minor things on my modern commuter. Came across this PX-10 and wanted to know what people think.

1) Is it worth it? If not, what's a good price?

2) What problem areas could you see with restoring this bike?

3) What should I look for (PX-10 specific. I've done a little research on what to look for when buying vintage bikes)?

Thanks!

Peugeot Px10

I'm also going to check out this Motobecane and Trek, so if you want to weigh in on those too, that would be great. I don't want to ask too much though.

Barrettscv 

Welcome to Bikeforums.

Mine is a 1971. It looks like the one in the advert, but I can't verify your exact year and model without better pictures.

https://www.bikeforums.net/fifty-plus...t-rebuild.html

Kactus

That is a very fair price for a PX-10 in this area and that one looks to be in excellent condition. The fact that it's a blue one makes it a little more valuable in my opinion. There are a couple of areas on a PX-10 to look at: the derailleurs are plastic bodied and have a tendency to crack with age and some of them had stems that could crack and fail. These are replaceable with better parts but will cost you additional.

The Moto and Trek are both touring bikes and won't be as lively riding as the Peugeot and the Moto will have some of the same French parts peculiarities of the PX-10. The PX-10 would be my pick out of those three.

hansmanos

Dang. Beautiful bike!

Kactus

If the Brooks saddle is original, it's '73 or later based on the badge. If it were a little smaller, I'd be all over it for that price.

hansmanos

Thanks for the input. Nice to get a local opinion, for sure! My gut also says to go PX-10 or something similar. Then fix it up, and go after a vintage touring bike once I sell my current commuter. Also really like the looks of this Grand Prix, but it might be a little small. Picking just one is really hard!

Kactus

Just pick one at a time! It can be a bit of a sickness at times.

Do you live in Seattle?

hansmanos

Yes, I live in Seattle; Greenwood area. So I'll probably beat you to it!

I can tell by looking at your garage that you've had a bit of a hard time picking just one too.

Kactus

I'd have a hard time standing over that PX-10! I've got a few, but I'm a slacker compared to some folks here. I hope you get to it before someone else. If it was 2" shorter it probably would have been long gone.

italianbiker

As stated above by knowledgeable people, go for the PX10!!!

You will regret it if you don't, I've had a Motobecane and it did nor ride like the Peugeot. Trek's are common. Great price on the PX10.

oddjob2

If you're buying to refurbish and sell, the Raleigh and Trek are too expensive. Negative or little margin after expenses.

The Raleigh is overpriced by 2x of it's value. On the Trek 414, the front QR skewer is not original, so make sure the rims match. If they don't then the bike to me would be worth far less, more like $175-$200.

The PX-10 is a great buy. You will need a Stronglight crank puller, not cheap at $50, or access to one to overhaul the BB.

If you can land the Moto GT for $125, it is worth pursuing.

randyjawa 

I feel exactly the opposite, having owned one PX10, a Motobe Grand Record and a Grand Jubilee. I sold the PX10 and but kept my Grand Jubilee. That said...

The PX10 is a great deal - go for it immediately or it will disappear. The Motobecane (Grand Touring it looks like)is also a worthy project, in my opinion. I would get em both and do so immediately. But ask yourself this question...





Do the bicycles fit you?

hansmanos

Thank you for all the input. You guys are really awesome.

I'm looking for a restore to ride project. I don't intend to flip the bike. I'd like something I can work hard on and have fun riding when I'm done.

The PX-10 was a great fit. Took it to the local bike shop and they told me not to buy it. Talked about how hard some parts are to find. It does need a ton of work, but the frame is really straight, and the wheels look perfect, minus the patina. I slept on it and still want it. My girlfriend thinks I'm crazy though.

This thing has handle bar end shifters, which I assume have been modified. Not crazy about them being there.

I didn't end up seeing the Moto yet. I think I'm more interested in a "racing" style bike. I've got a decent modern commuter that's pretty heavy but good at hauling a load. I want something to whip around on when I'm not commuting or camping. So I think you guys talked me out of the touring bikes.

As of this morning, I'm planning on ignoring my girlfriend and buying the PX if it is still available. But it would be great if somebody could tell me what the most expensive / hard to find parts are.

Thanks !

oddjob2

"Restore" generally means back to original specification and can be a long and expensive ordeal to get the exact parts.

"Refurbish" means to renew the bike with a thorough cleaning, lubrication, and replacement of worn consumables and other components.

If you're doing the work, ignore your LBS recommendation. They are only geared, no pun intended, to the latest and greatest. Most of the PX-10 you're looking at is original and it should not require new parts, although Kactus mentioned the in due time cracking of the Delrin RD. The handlebar stem looks unusually short on your bike, so that may something you'd want to swap if the bars feel too close.

xiaoman1 

Buy the PX-10...what are you waiting for, what parts are missing or not servicable that are "hard to find"..sure it will need tires etc. but its a great ride.
use he parts thing to try and get the price down
Ben

hansmanos

I'm definitely looking to refurb. Not wanting to put together a museum piece, but a bike I can ride that will look sexy as hell. I'm ignoring the LBS and made the guy an offer. Will see what happens. Thanks!

Kactus

Your LBS probably doesn't have the correct tools for working on the bike and knows they can't sell you new parts for it. As oddjob2 said, you will need a crank puller but these are available. Most of what you may need now or in the future are available on eBay or other sources. There are also many people on this site that are near Seattle that could possible help you out.

Just to let you know, we will expect some photos if you get the bike!

Salamandrine 

Yeah, the LBS won't make any money from you with that, and may well not have the tools or the knowledge to work on it themselves.

Looks to me like that bike doesn't really need anything. Someone has already put a nice pair of clincher wheels on it. I would suggest you overhaul all the bearings. You will need a the special stronglight puller to remove the crank, as has been mentioned. I can't tell for sure from the small picture, but it doesn't look like an AVA death stem, so that's good.

Simplex derailleurs work fine if properly adjusted. The front ones do tend to break eventually.

hansmanos

All good info, especially about the LBS. They're a great bunch of guys, but no vintage bikes on the racks. I'm supposedly all set to pick it up today. Will post some pics when I bring it home. I promised my girlfriend I'd finish a headboard woodworking project before I start in on the bike, but I don't think diagnosing issues and ordering a few parts counts

I just can't wait to tear that thing apart, clean it up, and put it all back together again!

Salamandrine 

My first guess would be 1972.

Those had old style road geometry BTW, which is more or less identical to touring bike geometry. This is because the Tour de France at the time still had large sections on gravel roads.

Being that it's all 531 DB, it's going to be a much better and zippier bike than the moto or trek.

I have my PX10 set up as a general recreation bike/light tourer that can handle fire roads.

Salamandrine 

If you do get it, post in the C&V forum. I have lots of tips for working on those old Frenchie things, as do others I'm sure.

hansmanos

I pumped up the tires, gave away some cash, and rode it home!

My first real bike: Peugeot PX-10 - Bike Forums

Thanks for all your help!

plonz 

Atta boy! Get that racer in the stable. You can do fat tires, upright stems and wicker baskets later. Nice purchase

italianbiker

Congratulations on the bike and a ton of work? I bet you can just put air in the tires and knock out a couple hundred miles without any problems. I remember an old Italian bicycle maker tell me that if things spin smoothly no need to re-grease. Spray it with WD40 and ride it!

oddjob2

Given that the OP is far younger than a good many of the bikeforum C&V regulars, I would think that a finished headboard that makes his girlfriend happy, would ultimately put a bigger grin on his face than a French "lady" that is older than he is.