Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals and Inquiries Use this subforum for all requests as to "How much is this vintage bike worth?"Do NOT try to sell it in here, use the Marketplaces.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-24-10, 10:03 PM   #1
guygadois 
Never Nude
Thread Starter
 
guygadois's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Central Coast, CA
Bikes: yikes, too many
Posts: 905
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10 Post(s)
1990 Bill Holland

Unfortunately, this bike just doesn't fit me. It is a custom built Holland (San Diego) with full Superbe Pro (last generation) except for the shifters which are Sprint 9000. The Frame is in perfect condition and the original Joe Bell paint job that would be rated a 10/10. The Superbe group is near perfect and includes the awesome hidden spring brakes and is maybe a 9.5/10. They just don't come better then this IMHO.

I would like to know peoples opinion on much I could:
a) sell the bike with components
b) sell just the frame
c) Just the components

I really wish this fit me because it is the most stunning bike I have ever owned.

It is a 59 ST (C-C) x 56 TT (C-C)

Thanks,

Guy



Shiny brakes even without buffing them...




Matching Silca pump with campy head




Beautiful detail on brake bridge


__________________
Bikes: Salsa Fargo Parlee Z1 Holland Pinarello Biemmezeta Della Santa
guygadois is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-10, 10:25 PM   #2
5cagm
Senior Member
 
5cagm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Bikes: 1984 Nishiki Landau, 1991 Merlin Titanium, 199? Lotto MBK Team
Posts: 494
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
WOW! That is absolutely stunning. In terms of the value I would not consider myself knowledgeable to appraise this bike, but I do know for sure that the Superbe Pro parts do fetch a king's ransom and they are hard to find in such pristine condition. Where on earth did you find this beauty and what kind of steel is it constructed from?
5cagm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-10, 10:34 PM   #3
guygadois 
Never Nude
Thread Starter
 
guygadois's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Central Coast, CA
Bikes: yikes, too many
Posts: 905
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by 5cagm View Post
WOW! That is absolutely stunning. In terms of the value I would not consider myself knowledgeable to appraise this bike, but I do know for sure that the Superbe Pro parts do fetch a king's ransom and they are hard to find in such pristine condition. Where on earth did you find this beauty and what kind of steel is it constructed from?
Bill Holland is researching it for me but he said he remembers the build and thinks it an SL and maybe SP blend. I'll know more when he get's back to me.

It was a local find. Man, I wish it was a few CM longer and one taller. I guess I could hold it because we all shrink with age???

Guy
__________________
Bikes: Salsa Fargo Parlee Z1 Holland Pinarello Biemmezeta Della Santa
guygadois is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-10, 10:42 PM   #4
5cagm
Senior Member
 
5cagm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Bikes: 1984 Nishiki Landau, 1991 Merlin Titanium, 199? Lotto MBK Team
Posts: 494
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Hahah well it's a fit for me, unfortunately I'm thinking it's wayyyyy out of my price league. That and I've currently got a project that I'm working on.
5cagm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-10, 11:03 PM   #5
P4D 
Paceline Lead Blocker
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Bikes:
Posts: 672
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Did you get that from a guy in Garden Grove? He had one just like it listed.
P4D is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-10, 11:16 PM   #6
guygadois 
Never Nude
Thread Starter
 
guygadois's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Central Coast, CA
Bikes: yikes, too many
Posts: 905
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by alexw View Post
Did you get that from a guy in Garden Grove? He had one just like it listed.
Nope, up here in central coast.
__________________
Bikes: Salsa Fargo Parlee Z1 Holland Pinarello Biemmezeta Della Santa
guygadois is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-10, 11:22 PM   #7
mkeller234
Rustbelt Rider
 
mkeller234's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Canton, OH
Bikes: 1990 Trek 1420 - 1978 Raleigh Professional - 1973 Schwinn Collegiate - 1974 Schwinn Suburban
Posts: 8,304
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Oh man. I would like to think I could afford it but have serious doubts.
__________________
|^^^^^^^^^^^^^^| ||
|......GO.BROWNS........| ||'|";, ___.
|_..._..._______===|=||_|__|..., ] -
"(@)'(@)"""''"**|(@)(@)*****''(@)
mkeller234 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-10, 04:50 AM   #8
Picchio Special
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Lancaster County, PA
Bikes: '39 Hobbs, '58 Marastoni, '73 Italian custom, '75 Wizard, '76 Wilier, '78 Tom Kellogg, '79 Colnago Super, '79 Sachs, '81 Masi Prestige, '82 Cuevas, '83 Picchio Special, '84 Murray-Serotta, '85 Trek 170, '89 Bianchi, '90 Bill Holland, '94 Grandis
Posts: 5,063
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I would part it out. Someone may dig the frame, someone else the gruppo. Bill Holland's are a bit under-appreciated, IMO, because they're not common, and many of the steel one's were apparently built kind of late in the "steel era." That one is a beauty, and someone should appreciate the quality, plus it is a good color (and many people know who Joe Bell is), it just doesn't have the name recognition. If you sell the frame, be sure to include a bit on Holland and his status as a master builder (now in titanium.) That said, Bill Holland frames don't come up for sale often enough to generate any kind of "market value," even one with a fairly wide range. Plus, it's a bit outside the ideal size range. At a wild guess, I would put the value in the $400-600 range for the frame. But price estimates really aren't my main skill.
Picchio Special is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-10, 09:09 AM   #9
jet sanchEz
Senior Member
 
jet sanchEz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Bikes:
Posts: 8,181
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 120 Post(s)
With some good photos against a white background with lots of sunlight, you could probably get $1200 or so on the 'bay, especially once you get
all the information from Mr. Holland. You could try posting in the Serotta classified forum too, those guys really like the rare and expensive stuff.
jet sanchEz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-10, 09:39 AM   #10
wrk101
DRF aka Thrifty Bill
 
wrk101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: The NC Mountains
Bikes: 86 Katakura Silk, 87 Prologue, 87 Cimarron, 14 frame school custom, 73 Paramount
Posts: 19,978
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 15 Post(s)
If you sell the bike complete, I would replace the bar tape. It is really dirty, and detracts from an otherwise beautiful bike. Parted out, the bar tape does not matter.

I would also lower the seat, put it about the height of the bars, maybe slightly higher.

+1 White background would also help.

Out of my league pricing wise, I would just guess something north of $1000.

Last edited by wrk101; 03-25-10 at 11:20 AM.
wrk101 is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:38 PM.