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Old 10-31-10, 09:26 AM   #1
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Nishiki Alien

Here's a Nishiki Alien with unusual frame geometry. Suntour XCE rear derailleur and crank. Shimano 600 headsetTange Prism tubing, paint pretty good. Any info on value would be appreciated.
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Old 10-31-10, 10:02 AM   #2
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That appears to be an original 1989 Alien frame. The elevated chainstay design caused quite a fuss for a few years, then largely died away, at least for hardtails. Thes were originally equipped with Shimano Deore XT-II and sold for $1000 US. SunTour XCE is quite a step down and would have knocked the retail price in almost half. I don't know what the Rochester market is like, nor the mechanical condition (outside of apparently flat and cheap tures) but cosmetically it appears surpisingly clean.
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The Alien was the top of the line MTB for Nishiki that year. The bike you're looking at has the rounded tubing that I believe is steel. In 1990 through 93, the Alien had box/rectangular tubing and was made of aluminum. The later Aliens still bring nice bucks on ebay if you can find one with the headtube not cracked. The steel model was downgraded to the second place model in the 1990 line-up. The Ariel and the Cascade shared the steel frame.
If you add a nice suspension fork and some decent brakes, like V brakes those elevated chain stay bikes make great rides on single track as they have great handling charachteristics, very stable. I compared mine directly to a same vintage (1992) Trek 8500. The Trek had a superior Rock Shox air fork but couldn't come close to the handling of the Nishiki. Here's a pic I took last year out at Harris Lake park of my 92 Ariel. Note how similar it is to the 89 Alien. I believe the frames are identical.
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Hey ya'll. Sorry to bring this thread back from the dead. I just picked up one of the pearl white steel Nishiki Aliens, and there is almost no record of them other than the bikes themselves. I just want to add my observations and clear up Roccobike's speculations. The steel Alien is not identical to the Ariel. The Alien frame was built with Tange Prestige, while the Ariel was built with various other tubesets and rear triangle designs (according to google images). Roccobike's Ariel has a completely different chain stay design. Check how the Alien's chain stays travel past the seat tube and connect to the down tube, while the Ariel's chain stays extend just past the seat tube and attach to an extra tube.
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Welcome to the forums Bozebro. Agreed, neither the tubing nor the elevated chainstay design was the same for the 1989 Alien and 1990 Ariel. There were cost concessions to be taken into account. After all, there was a retail price difference of $450 US, which is more than can be attributed to the difference between Deore XT and DX.

However, I'm not sure where you coming from with "there is almost no record of them other than the bikes themselves". What should there be? Typically there would be a catalogue, price lists (the Alien's price increased during 1989), some advertisements and road tests but that's about it. MBA and Bicycling both conducted road tests and there were probably others. West Coast Cycle ran two page and absolutely huge four page Alien speads in early 1989 but then Derby took them over and the advertising campaign shifted to other models.
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