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Old 02-28-12, 06:00 PM   #1
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Is this a Peugeot PX 10

I went to the LBS today to pick up some stuff and they had this sitting outside the door. Being a vintage bike enthusiast I immediately claimed it. Now, I don't have much experience with Peugeots, however, through a bit of research I think I may have a 70's PX 10 on my hands. Am I right? and if I'm not mistaken these have quite a bit of value, no?

Unfortunately it seems that a good amount of parts were swapped out, and it didn't have a rear wheel. I may make it into the fixie I've always secretly wanted, even though when the guy at the LBS suggested that my knee jerk reaction was to respond "no way!".

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Old 02-28-12, 06:03 PM   #2
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Free, now that is truly a score.
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Yep. about 1974/5. They make nice fixies, I had a slightly earlier one set up that way for years and loved it. Not many braze ons. Looks like your rear hanger has been tapped, so bike has already been messed with some, though in a most minor way.

I like them, they're fun.
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Some guys have all the luck!!

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A free PX-10? Some serious luck there.
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Wow, don't ever bring an older bike to that LBS, they obviously know nothing about them . . .

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So how can one tell if it is a px-10 frame? By the color scheme, decals and the Reynolds 531 tubing? If I m not mistaking they came with campy components.
Can someone enlighten me? I ask because I have come across a similar frame with no decals (mostly worn out) but I think it is the 103 frame.

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The PX series featured Reynolds 531 butted tube sets, coupled with Simplex forged drops and the biggest clue of all is the chrome fork blade ends and the chromed stays. They almost always indicate of some kind...
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Thanks Randyjawa. I ve been drooling for one of these for a few months now. I figured I d ask so I can keep my eyes open, locally.
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Thanks for all the replies folks. I'm really stoked about this project, and will post updates in the main C&V forum once I get going. I've been working on a Univega Gran Premio that I really want to get on the road, however, so the Peugeot will have to wait.

In addition, I'm definitely going back to the shop tomorrow to figure out who the exact original owner was and thank them personally. As well as inquire about the rear wheel, and why they wanted to get rid of it. Hopefully they won't want it back after I make such a big fuss over it!
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So how can one tell if it is a px-10 frame? By the color scheme, decals and the Reynolds 531 tubing? If I m not mistaking they came with campy components.
Can someone enlighten me? I ask because I have come across a similar frame with no decals (mostly worn out) but I think it is the 103 frame.
Measure the seatpost with a set of calipers if in doubt. 24= carbolite 103. 25.4= tube special allegre peugeot (watch, most of these have a smaller post shimmed in). 26.4= PX/PR/PK 10. Narrowing down the last three is details. In the time period of the OPs bike, it's the half chrome rear stays, plus the remains of the 531 decal on the fork, and details on the fork crown, that are the key indicators.

PXs stock had a mix of Simplex, Mafac, Normandy, and Stronglight components, the last usually being a key identifier-- the UOs had the first two, but not the Stonglight, as a rule. ANy PX with Campy prolly had it added later, esp. from this period.
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Wow!!! Next time just lie to us and say you paid $100 for it, we will be less jealous.
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Not a PX10E but a PX10L. PX10s have chrome socks on the rear stays and chrome fork ends, plus a few other more or less unique identifying features. This bike has plain whit lugs with paint outlining. That would make it a PX10L. '74/75.
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Because of the the rough condition and rather plain paint same color lugs. I can see how a less informed knowledgeable person could mistake this PX10 for a cheaper Peuget unless they took the time to realy look close at it. I have found the easiest way to spot ID French bikes from this era as being high end even from a distance is the crankset. The French just did not but nicer cranksets on mid and low end bikes.
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The PX series featured Reynolds 531 butted tube sets, coupled with Simplex forged drops and the biggest clue of all is the chrome fork blade ends and the chromed stays. They almost always indicate of some kind...
This one is a pre-74 PX10; the OP's is from '74 or a couple of years later. OP's bike has the Reynolds sticker on the DT, this one is on the ST. The location of the inoxidable sticker on the OP's is also consistent with '74+ vintage. Maillard Trophy hubs suggest a PX10 rather than PX10LE. LE's came with with Maillard 700 Professional Team hubs (laced to tubular rims) and slightly different Mavic Competition calipers. The OP's bike should clean up nice.
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What does it have, and what does it need?

Is the size right?

The PX-10 was a popular model because it rode as well as more expensive bikes. Workmanship was typically decent to good though not amazing. Not terrible, either. The components were of high quality but less expensive than those on other bikes. Peugeot had French pride (and why not?) and used as many French-made parts as possible. For many years, they were able to use nothing but French-made parts. Top of the line French stuff was never as expensive as top of the line Italian stuff, hence the popularity. However, the stuff that came on the Peugeot, particularly the hubs, headset, crankset, and pedals, were very reliable and durable.

The performance was nothing to sneeze at, either. In my view, this model and many other French bikes have a ride that is better than you'd expect. They had some kind of magic secret for making a bike pleasant and fun.
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I have to agree that the French bikes of this era had very good ride quality for the price. The French stuff just seem's to have a more comfortably ride than a lot of other stuff from the 70's. I think this comes from the combination of slightly lower BB's, longer wheelbases and better slightly truerer lugg work than similarly priced other bikes.
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Looks PX10 to me-

I've got a 67- when they still had a little more intricate lug-
I've had it since 1987- and I DID pay $100 for it then!

Anyway- consider the tapped dropout lucky too- now you can put a modern Campy or shimano derailleur on it- and they sometimes really need replacing after 40 years- the Simplex were plastic- they worked well- the back much better than the front-
I replaced that years ago- but just put a campy Nuovo Record on a few months back after the original went bonkers- wasn't about to pay more for an original simplex- and besides i put an Ofmega Super Record Knock off crank on too. I,ve got the MX bars and stem because my tired old back can't take the drops anymore- after racing 14 seasons when I was young.

yeah, your 531 decal is in a different place- mine disintegrated but was under the Oxydol sticker- I would have more scoffed at it back in the day- and road a Colnago and an Exxon Graftek and a Masi- and a Paramount track bike- but I think the old Peugeot has a certain grace and elegance- and the scuptured lugs went out at the turn of the '70'on most bikes. The old frame just keeps rolling even if I have too much weight on it now-

I've got a Daccordi frame in a corner oof the bedroom in case it ever cracks-
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