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Old 03-19-12, 12:59 PM   #1
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DO I OWN A CAMPY BIKE? (they exist)

Hey all,
A while ago, I stumbled on a bike, sold by a 88yr old man, who felt like buying a new one It is all Campagnolo, every single part of it (exempt for the wheels, the bike had tubes and his LBS changed them into tyres, they had to change the rims and stole his hubs, added S quick releases)

Anyway, the amount of campagnolo parts is impressive.. Seat post, breaks, levers, break hoods(not visual on pics), breaks, dropouts, seat post clam, headset (http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/campy-steer-tube.jpg), even the screws of the bottle cage are marked with 'Brev Campagnolo Italy'...
Stickers: Reynolds Tubes 531, Campagnolo (in some kind of sun), and 'Emaillage Mv'.. No other sign of a brand, no serial number...

As someone in the 'Campy frames' thread points out, Campy had some Trade Show models, that had all their parts and no brand, and they were silver... (http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...mpagnolo-frame)

I didn't want to sell this one, so I tuned it a bit for my girlfriend, I still have all the original pieces, and I can easily convert it back to original state.. (will post pictures of original bike later if some would like to see them...)

Anyone knows more about this bike? Could it be a Trade Show bike from campy (its Silver)? What could be a good price for it?
I uploaded some hd pics so you guys can zoom

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https://picasaweb.google.com/1086758...098507/Marieke

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Old 03-19-12, 01:10 PM   #2
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Hello welcome to the forums. The link to your pcs is not working. The short answer is NO I don't believe campagnolo ever built bikes. They have had many bike frames made for them for shows and neutral support but I don't think there is a frame shop in the back corner of the plant.

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Hey all,
A while ago, I stumbled on a bike, sold by a 88yr old man, who felt like buying a new one It is all Campagnolo, every single part of it (exempt for the wheels, the bike had tubes (Tubulars?) and his LBS changed them into tyres, they had to change the rims and stole his hubs, added S quick releases) (So they sold him a new wheelset and kept the old wheels?)

Anyway, the amount of campagnolo parts is impressive.. Seat post, breaks, levers, break hoods(not visual on pics), breaks, dropouts, seat post clam, headset (http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/campy-steer-tube.jpg), even the screws of the bottle cage are marked with 'Brev Campagnolo Italy'...
Stickers: Reynolds Tubes 531, Campagnolo (in some kind of sun), and 'Emaillage Mv'.. No other sign of a brand, no serial number...

As someone in the 'Campy frames' thread points out, Campy had some Trade Show models, that had all their parts and no brand, and they were silver... (http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...mpagnolo-frame)

I didn't want to sell this one, so I tuned it a bit for my girlfriend, I still have all the original pieces, and I can easily convert it back to original state.. (will post pictures of original bike later if some would like to see them...) (you took it parts off to tune it? Does that mean it is now a Fixie?)

Anyone knows more about this bike? Could it be a Trade Show bike from campy (its Silver)? What could be a good price for it? (what did you pay for it? If you paid $200 for it but would not pay $250 then $200 is a good price for it)
I uploaded some hd pics so you guys can zoom

PICTURES:
https://picasaweb.google.com/1086758...098507/Marieke

Thx
I can't say I have ever seen Campi bottle screws but I am sure at one time they may have made them.
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+ Campagonolo only makes parts. There are quit a few nicer road bikes that have pretty much all Campy parts but the never made whole bikes.
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@Bianchigirll: Thx and sorry, you were fast.. link to the pics should work now.. I didn't say campagnolo build the frame, I'm asking if this could be one of the Trade Show models someone build for them, and who that builder could be...

The man who owned the bike bought it back in the '70s, he's 88yrs old.. he didn't know the exact year but he told me it was one of the best and most expensive bikes at the time... he never used it in the rain (it rains a lot in Belgium), it's in perfect condition...

Yes I meant tubulars(I think), English is not my native language.. And they indeed sold him a new wheel set, saying that the rims where not suited for tyres.. they sold him S hubs and new rims (the ones on the pictures)

I live in Belgium, there are millions of retro bikes on the marked here, old people don't know the value of classic bikes, I don't think I bought it for a fair price, I'm asking what it's worth.. I would have paid a 1000US for it, easily, if I had the money...

About the tuning, I just changed the tyres, saddle, tape, and handlebars (was cineli with brooks tape and a brooks saddle)

Hope that sorts things out.. anyone any idea about that 'Emaillage Mv' sticker?
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Very nice looking aside from the bars. can you post a closeup of the Emaillage Mv decal?

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You should change the saddle and bars back.

Looks like a decent bike, but as said above, I don't think Campagnolo ever made bikes. As for whether it was a show bike to show off their parts or not, I don't know how you could find out. It does seem unlikely that they would have such a small frame made for a show bike.
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Besides components they also made quite a bit of frame parts...cable guides, dropouts, binder bolts and so on. The Campy book by Velopress never mentions anything but doesn't mean anything either. It looks like a really nice bike.
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It is very possible but unlikely it is a show bike as I would imagine the same frames may ave been used for years and had the components changed and maybe repainted. The same holds for a neutral support bike but I would imagine they are pretty beat up if they are ever released. 1

I suspect a very nice bike possible stipped of ID during repainting or perhaps even a display for a shop. 2

1&2 I have nothing to base this just a SWAG and I mean Campi like all companies does cut cost right? so why not reuse frames for years.
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