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Old 08-04-12, 11:22 PM
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Bianchi Questions bought two a mixte and an Azzuro

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I bought these to bikes and I am trying to figure out what I have. Also to see if I over paid.
First the mixte bike runs flawlessly and has only minimal signs of wear $75.00 they want $150
My wife fell in love with this so I converted it to more of a cruiser/commuter bike

Second the an Azzuro the person told me it was an Italian frame $100 they wanted $200
It has Simplex derailers and a cotter crank needs work but does ride
All/any help will be greatly appreciated

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Where are thise bikes? I would put the Mixte maybe mid '80s but I think the crank is much newer. Looks like an upper lower level like a Sport or Special.



This one is likely a lowend model judging by the cotter cranks, and safety levers.

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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll
Where are thise bikes? I would put the Mixte maybe mid '80s but I think the crank is much newer. Looks like an upper lower level like a Sport or Special.



This one is likely a lowend model judging by the cotter cranks, and safety levers.

The bikes are in Toronto Canada. The mixte seems to be more of a nimble quicker, lighter bike then the men's. I bought the mixte for the wife she has started to ride to work about 22 kilometres round trip. I first got her a Schwinn Soto( Chinese bike I found out also over priced) and since owning it for a week she hates it. The bike shifts like a tank and clicks from the cranset and it has only been ridden about 100 km.
So the mixte it does not matter either way if I over paid at $75 plus a new tube but would still like to know(seller wanted $150). The most important part is the wife loves it. We went on a 30km bike ride yesterday and she could not believe how this bike(mixte) was a million times better then the $400 Schwinn (I did convert it to a cruiser/commuter bike), that it was actually a pleasure to ride it.

This brings me to the men's Bianchi I paid $100 for it because I thought if she was that happy with hers I would love one as well
The seller wanted $200 I offered a $100 and they took it I thought I would replace my Sekine MR300 with this Bianchi
Is there such thing as a Azzuro? Did Bianchi ever use Simplex derailers or cotter cranks or is this a Frankenbike? Would it be worth putting a Shimano 105 group set on it? Would the bottom bracket be Italian or English thread( see I do read the forum)? The bike does have a sticker just below the seat stating made in Italy. Anyway to figure out the model or serial number? Should I replace any parts or just take my lumps on this bike? Finally did I over pay, market value or by some strange chance under pay?
I am not too sure what you mean by safety levers. My username pretty much sums up my knowledge on bikes. I do feel I did a nice job converting the mixte to a commuter.
Any/all help will be greatly appreciated. Also very glad you answered as I hear you are the resident expert on Bianchi
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IMHO, you did great on both purchases. I'd say the Mixte is a steal, even if the paint appears a bit rough.

If both of you are happy with the ride, handling, and mechanicals, why make any changes? Just go out and enjoy.
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The Azzuro looks like it's mid-70's bottom end Italian. Measure the bottom bracket. If it's 70mm wide, you've got Italian threading. That would make it tougher to find a Shimano 105 compatible bottom bracket. I believe that you might find one that's Japanese make, but, they're like hen's teeth...
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Originally Posted by oddjob2
IMHO, you did great on both purchases. I'd say the Mixte is a steal, even if the paint appears a bit rough.

If both of you are happy with the ride, handling, and mechanicals, why make any changes? Just go out and enjoy.

The mixte rides excellent the Azzuro the bottom bracket seems a little loose and needs to be tuned up. Did Bianchi use Simplex?
I guess being into them for $180 for the pair is not bad. Do you know where the serial number would be on the men's bike?
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Originally Posted by anixi
The Azzuro looks like it's mid-70's bottom end Italian. Measure the bottom bracket. If it's 70mm wide, you've got Italian threading. That would make it tougher to find a Shimano 105 compatible bottom bracket. I believe that you might find one that's Japanese make, but, they're like hen's teeth...
Is it worth upgrading or the frame a lot different on a low end Bianchi. If I upgrade bottom bracket to something I can find and delailers etc will it become a mid range bike or will it stay a low end with nice parts
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Is it worth upgrading or the frame a lot different on a low end Bianchi. If I upgrade bottom bracket to something I can find and delailers etc will it become a mid range bike or will it stay a low end with nice parts
Well, if it's PG tubing (plain gauge, no butting) it will be a low-end frame no matter how you try to dress it up. If it is, you would be best off putting lower end, or mid-grade, components and just enjoy the comfortable, yet unresponsive, ride. I'm sorry that I can't be more optimistic!
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Is that blue one a Squadra? I had one and sold it a few years ago. Sorry I did. Rode that bike through Puerto Rico once.
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Originally Posted by bruce19
Is that blue one a Squadra? I had one and sold it a few years ago. Sorry I did. Rode that bike through Puerto Rico once.
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The seller told me it was Azzuro. I have really no way of knowing either way. Very new to Bianchi.
If there is a way to figure out the model let me know and I will gladly post what it is.
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Originally Posted by anixi
Well, if it's PG tubing (plain gauge, no butting) it will be a low-end frame no matter how you try to dress it up. If it is, you would be best off putting lower end, or mid-grade, components and just enjoy the comfortable, yet unresponsive, ride. I'm sorry that I can't be more optimistic!
I think I would go with the mid grade parts just to replace the cotter crank not a huge fan of them. Do you if I can find a square axle for these. I am 95% sure it is an Italian frame there is a sticker made in Italy and the bottom bracket seems to be 70mm.
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Isn't "azzuro" Italian for "blue"? Interesting name for a bike model...maybe that's a secondary model name?
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Yes. And, now that I'm thinking about it a "Squadra" should say Squadra somewhere on the frame I believe.
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Originally Posted by anixi
Isn't "azzuro" Italian for "blue"? Interesting name for a bike model...maybe that's a secondary model name?
I am just going by what the seller told me. Like my username sum up my experience with bikes. I did measure the bottom bracket and it is 70mm, so I guess it is Italian. If I could figure out the year and model I would be set. I did fine the serial number. It is where the rear wheel attaches on the non drive side. I did not write it down.
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Originally Posted by bruce19
Yes. And, now that I'm thinking about it a "Squadra" should say Squadra somewhere on the frame I believe.
The decals are in so so shape the only ones I could find are Bainchi and made in Italy on it.
What I would really like to do is switch the bottom bracket axle to square
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Men's Bianchi

I would still really like to find out what bike this is and year. Someone did mention 1970ties would like to know for sure.
The main thing I would like to do is switch the bottom bracket to square axle like this
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/120962141464?...84.m1438.l2649
My bearing caps seem fine no real pitting etc. but would really like to switch axles. So I guess my question is if I get one that was the same measurements between the bearing races will it work? Or do I have to find complete bottom bracket with caps, bearing and axle?
I actually took apart the bottom bracket last night the bearing and caps are fine. When I bought the bike the side without the adjustment(drive side) was loose. So I figured I should look at why. I really do not understand why it came loose. Anyway it went back together nice and seems very smooth with new grease
Any/all help will be greatly appreciated
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Better Picture Please help with model Please help

The Bianchi in question I took better pictures. I was told by the seller it was 1980ties and I was told by someone else early 1970ties about 1973
I was also told it was a touring bike not a road bike
So I know I have asked before but I would really like to figure out the model and year. I was told that the bracket on the back was for a lock. Also it has the generator bracket. Why I am re-asking is the guy who looked the bike said he was not a Bianchi guy He thought it was a Champione Del Mondo Touring and from what I think I have learned is that is not a model but a pro sticker.
It had a cotter crank and Simplex drive 180 I think
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After all my searching this is the closest I can find. It has the brackets like mine everything looks the same but I have no fenders
https://vintagecycleco.wordpress.com/...touring-cycle/

Originally Posted by New to bikes
The Bianchi in question I took better pictures. I was told by the seller it was 1980ties and I was told by someone else early 1970ties about 1973
I was also told it was a touring bike not a road bike
So I know I have asked before but I would really like to figure out the model and year. I was told that the bracket on the back was for a lock. Also it has the generator bracket. Why I am re-asking is the guy who looked the bike said he was not a Bianchi guy He thought it was a Champione Del Mondo Touring and from what I think I have learned is that is not a model but a pro sticker.
It had a cotter crank and Simplex drive 180 I think
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Generally the word upgrade should be avoided in most cases...it starts you down the slippy path from "you did pretty good" to "how much are you going to p*$$ away trying to make silk out of a sows ear". Make minimal repairs only and only when it is necessary. Then ride them as much as possible...be happy like your wife is.
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Originally Posted by ksisler
Generally the word upgrade should be avoided in most cases...it starts you down the slippy path from "you did pretty good" to "how much are you going to p*$$ away trying to make silk out of a sows ear". Make minimal repairs only and only when it is necessary. Then ride them as much as possible...be happy like your wife is.
I decided to let it go, someone offered me $300 for the Bianchi so I took it. I did put Shimano 600 crank and derailers on it that I bought for $45 and a sealed bottom bracket LP 20 $15.00 bike cost me $100
I thinking of restoring the Bottecchia or my old Peugeot
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