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Old 06-25-14, 09:39 AM
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Can anyone provide some info on this Peugeot, it's an 80's era Carbolite



I know it has a carbolite frame and Huret derailleurs, but I don't know what model it is and would like to know, can anyone help?
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I would surmise it's either a P-8 or else a PH-10LE, judging by the drive train and brakes. If the rear Hub is a Maillard HelicoMatic, then it's the PH-10LE. Standard Maillard or ATOM hub/ freewheel, then it's a P-8.

Just an educated guess...
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Thanks for the reply, I appreciate it. How could I tell what type of rear hub or freewheel it is? sorry to be so dumb about it! and do all Peugeot models start with a P?
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Judging by the decal scheme, it's 1987/1988-ish. I believe that may a model name on the top tube, but I can't make it out from the picture. The Carbolite tubing and component mix put it on par with a lower-end model like the Avoriaz in the French catalog. You can look at catalogs from different years at www.bikeboompeugeot.com . The posted catalogs are mostly from France and the States.

Peugeot's lineup in Europe differed from their offerings in North America.The nearest equivalent on my side of the Atlantic might be something like a P6 Iseran or P8. I don't know how UK models might've differed, if at all, from the French ones.

And no, not all Peugeot model numbers start with a P. Someone correct me if I'm wrong here: Through the 1970s and before, Peugeot's lower-end models often started with an A or U. The upper-end bikes had model numbers starting with P, like the sought-after PX-10. In the '80s, more and more bikes got "P" designations whether they were performance bikes or not.

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Hi and thanks Skydog75, it is an autograph something like Joey-Jim McLaughlin, I'm uncertain. the bike is very clean however (see images) and I think I would like to buy it as a runner, what do you guys think and would you bother to upgrade any parts?
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Hi and thanks Skydog75, it is an autograph something like Joey-Jim McLaughlin, I'm uncertain. the bike is very clean however (see images) and I think I would like to buy it as a runner, what do you guys think and would you bother to upgrade any parts, also are the wheels steel or alloy can you tell?
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SH27,

If the hub is marked thus:



It's a HelicoMatic. If not, it should take a 'standard' freewheel. The rims look to be Aluminum; your garden type variety Weinmann box section rim.

IMHO (read: very humble), I would keep her as she sits. She'll make a good, solid every day rig.

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Originally Posted by oldskoolwrench
SH27,

If the hub is marked thus:



It's a HelicoMatic. If not, it should take a 'standard' freewheel. The rims look to be Aluminum; your garden type variety Weinmann box section rim.

IMHO (read: very humble), I would keep her as she sits. She'll make a good, solid every day rig.

Much appreciated Oldskool, thanks for the advice!
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Originally Posted by oldskoolwrench
IMHO (read: very humble), I would keep her as she sits. She'll make a good, solid every day rig.
Absolutely agreed. The bike's perfectly functional as-is and no amount of upgrading is going to make it a racer.
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Use a magnet to determine wheel composition.
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Wheels = steel
Crank = steel
Derailleurs = steel

A very low end bike in very nice condition. My earlier PH10LE has much better running gear all around, so it's not that model, unless Peugeot decided to make it the entry level model later on.
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Originally Posted by Lascauxcaveman
Wheels = steel
Crank = steel
Derailleurs = steel

A very low end bike in very nice condition. My earlier PH10LE has much better running gear all around, so it's not that model, unless Peugeot decided to make it the entry level model later on.
Thanks but what makes it 'very' low end compared to your PH10LE? Is it just the running gear or the frame type? I have bought the bike and yes it is in fine condition, no rust anywhere and I have only had to replace tyres, rim and bar tape, after a polish and greasing it's practically new. I was thinking about changing the wheels to quick release and am going to read up as to how that is done, also I would like to remove the brake extensions.
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Steel components are indicative of low end, and carbolite was basically a fancy sounding name for plain steel tubing.
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I wonder if someone changed out the wheelset on that bike as I thought steel rims went mostly extinct at Peugeot for road bikes by the mid-80's. Maybe the same goes for the crankset......

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Originally Posted by Chombi
I wonder if someone changed out the wheelset on that bike as I thought steel rims went mostly extinct at Peugeot for road bikes by the mid-80's. Maybe the same goes for the crankset......
Hi Chombi, I get the feeling I've bought a duck, what sort of wheel - crankset should be on?
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Components are not like what you'd expect from a 1980's Peugeot. Not only are the rims steel (see the pattern on the sides) and the crank steel (and looks older than 1980's), also the axles are nutted and the derailleurs look like stamped steel? And is that a 5 speed freewheel?

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Derailleurs are Sachs Huret Eco, although I was thinking of changing to Rival, wheels should be alloy? Looking at frame/geometry is it worth investing in the upgrades if I can get parts cheaply enough?
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Originally Posted by SH27
Derailleurs are Sachs Huret Eco, although I was thinking of changing to Rival, wheels should be alloy? Looking at frame/geometry is it worth investing in the upgrades if I can get parts cheaply enough?
In my opinion, it is not a good idea to spend money on the bike. I would ride it and enjoy it, and keep your eye open for a higher-end "next bike". Stepping up from bike to bike is very common. With each bike, you have a better idea of what kind of bike you want, what to look for in a good bike, what size bike you need, and hopefully you become more mechanically adept and able to take advantage of bargains that just need a little repair.

This bike looks in good condition, so if it fits you, it is perfect for a starter bike. But the frame is low end, so it isn't worth doing any significant upgrades. $100 spent on upgrades is probably a third of what the next bike will cost.
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+1 what @jyl said.
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Got it, I'll leave the upgrades until next time!
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