Johnny 831

I picked up a Nishiki International today for $45! I'm thinking this is a pretty good deal as it has Tange 1 "seemless" tubing, cyclone cranks / brakes, suntour sprint derailleurs, anodized araya 700c rims... has some minor surface rust, but overall looking pretty nice. Needs some new tires, but rims are pretty straight as is. Any thoughts? Cheers!

Bianchigirll 

For $45 I would have hopped right on it.

Kactus

You stole that! That should clean up really nice.

Johnny 831

Thanks guys! I'm stoked, planning on fixing it up nicely and hooking up the next guy. It's too tall for me to ride seriously :/ Can we throw out a number for selling? Maybe $150 once new tires and wires / housing and what not... I fix em up good!

Kactus

You have good frame tubing and components so I would ask more than that. Maybe start at $300?

tmh657

What size is the frame? If it's bigger than 60cm that will limit the buyer pool and result in a lower price. Start it where you want but unless San Jose is an ultra hot market it's not a $300 bike when it's ride ready and clean. This time of year $225 where I live.

Bianchigirll 

Looks more like the 56 range.

oddjob2

+1

The subject bike has rust at every lug. Nishiki is a solid brand, but doesn't bring the big $$$. I agree that $200 +/- 10% is about right.

zazenzach

+1 great deal

very strange lugs though. they almost look like bondo'd aluminum joints.

Johnny 831

Thanks a lot folks! Yes the lugs are "seemless" which to me look ugly compared to my Nishiki Olympic 12 Speed which is a little older I think. The Tange#1 tubing is super light though, and the Cyclone components are pretty cool. This bike is roughly 23.5 inches which for a 5'6" guy with fairly short legs makes it a stretch. This bike will be to flip after I get it cleaned up, have a few rides with it, enjoy the novelty, then find it a decent home. Who knows, maybe I hook up a friend for super cheap. If I got $100 for it, I will have more than doubled my money. For CL folks, probably start around $200 and see if I get some bites.

QUESTION! I almost want to grab the Cyclone cranks and brakes for my Trek 560 Pro Series I just picked up. I would swop for Exage brakes, 105 fr derail, acera x rr derail. Only reason I ask is if I'm going to flip it for less than mint value, or top dollar, then I might as well take what I like? exage 400 brakes work great, and unless that person is like "where are the cyclone components?" Then does it much matter if the parts are still highly functional? I've been jonesing for some cyclone stuff and honestly didn't even notice the cranks and brakes where that brand( still a rookie here hahaha )...


P.S. Since I got people thinking Nishiki... here is another one I might let go of... this one is more my size, and I ride it here and there, but now have an awesome Trek that is much lighter. How much should I look to get for this one? ARX derailleurs, Sugino GT cranks ( someone mentioned "drillium" idk)... Repacked BB and headset, shimano 600 6 spd cassette.

TugaDude

None of the three bikes involved in your discussion have complete, original groups. So feel free to move the components around as you wish. It won't impact value much. Just check the bottom bracket requirements for the cranks. You might have to move the existing BB with the crank.

TugaDude

They are bonded joints...

Johnny 831

When you say bonded... this means some kind of bonding agent? (bondo?) This is saddening

daf1009

Or...take the parts and sell the frame...donor bike style...you can probably make a couple bucks selling the frame and fork on the Bay. Also...any parts you do not want, sell them as well...

TugaDude

The tubing is apparently oversized and internally brazed, not glued. I'm sure their advertising was truthful, but the connections certainly resemble the bonded joints of the Raleigh Technium and some Trek frames.

Even if they were glued it isn't necessarily a bad thing. Some adhesives outperform alternatives for strength and durability. Not all are created equal.

TugaDude

Johnny 831

VERY COOL! and helpful thank you! Overhauling it right now

Johnny 831

I've been a little intimidated with this prospect, but I noticed there is a sellers fee? Is this a percentage of the sale? Or a one time buy in thing?

Kactus

For eBay it a percentage of the sales price plus you pay a percentage to paypal.

daf1009

But, even with those, you, more often than not, come out ahead...

triathloner

I bought one this fall for $25, sold as the bike I would have maybe gotten $200. I parted it out on ebay for around $400 and I still have the rims and bars. Mine did have a real nice super maxi crank that brought $75 all by itself.

Johnny 831

I was curious how the paint was on your bike? Mine is shoty in some spots, but has cyclone brake levers, brakes, shifters, and cranks. I'm really tempted to put the cyclone gear on my Trek 560, but not sure about the cranks as they are 5 cm longer. I might part it out and repaint to keep it... so many directions hahah I should just put tubes in and sell it on CL :/

oddjob2

Johnny, it's 5mm, not centimeters, so only about 1/4". Make the drivetrain swap, you won't regret it. I doubt the brake lever are cyclone as they have turkey wing safety levers?

triathloner

The paint was decent, but there were spots where it had pretty good scrapes. I think the frame sold for 80 something with 25 bucks shipping on ebay.

Johnny 831

The brake levers don't have the turkey levers, and it's got the 3 ... swishes? Similar to some other cyclone stuff I got. Do you think the 5 MM difference will matter that much? The Trek is a decent size for me, a little long for my torso, but not bad, I'm hoping I can put all cyclone components on the bike! I got: brakes, brake levers (I believe), braze on shifters, fr and rr derailleurs, and cranks! I'm a dork like that hahaha anyways, I do have another question for you...

I have that Bridgestone "Cyclone" which I think is 70s, I was considering putting all the cyclone gear on this bike, but have run into an interesting problem... the front derailleur on the newer cyclone gear doesn't have a cable housing stop, but seems to have a hole threaded to receive one... My question (s) is, what is this bolt called, and where can I find one!?!?!?!