So what does $50 buy you on a Friday night In Philly.....?: Viking Content
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So what does $50 buy you on a Friday night In Philly.....?: Viking Content
I picked this up from a seller tonight in South Philadelphia. His wife got it in Portland, about a decade ago and it was not being used anymore. Campy, high flange hubs, MAFAC Top 63 brakes, cool GB Stem /bars and a neato grease port on the bottom bracket. I figure about early 1960'S?
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Nice. Hopefully you'll give it a long 2nd (or 3rd or nth) life. I make it more as mid to late sixties, but why quibble.
BTW- is the front wheel damaged, of half out of the fork, or does the fork need a tweak? Either way, it's not anything that can't be dealt with.
BTW- is the front wheel damaged, of half out of the fork, or does the fork need a tweak? Either way, it's not anything that can't be dealt with.
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Dude. Awesome find.
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+10 Off the charts awesome.
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Hmmmm.... With that rear exposed brake cable routing under the toptube, I would have guessed LATE '70s, since most earlier bikes used chromed band clamps with the sheathed cable on top of the toptube, and later bikes had the triple braze-on double-ring mounts...
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The same $50 on a Friday night in Philly could also have bought you 7 cheesesteaks.
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BTW- the top 63 which was my favorite Mafac brake, was already out of the catalog in the early seventies.
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Man that's sweet. Will spruce up nicely. I had a mid-sixties Raleigh with that style exposed brake cable and the same GB stem but longer, and GB Maes bend bar. Those Mafacs will look really nice polished up.
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I stand corrected... I only came to understand 'ten-speeds' around '74-ish. Both my Fuji '74 Special Tourer' and '75 S-10S used the band clamps. I only saw the under--toptube routing on later '70s bikes at my LBS.
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They don't polish up bright. They're of a softer grade of aluminum that only reaches a soft patina at best, but they will look good. Left alone they naturally oxidized to a very light silver color similar to the stem in the photo. BTW be careful not to damage the crossover cables. They have unique, smaller ends and are very hard to replace.
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Thanks a lot. Now I feel hungry.
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Really cool bike there! That's a brand I've never come across, in the real world at least.
The head badge looks great.
The head badge looks great.
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And Aaron noted the GB 'lugged stem' on the Viking. Are those really lugged? Or are they just forged to that shape to look like lugged stems?
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Nice, I saw that listing yesterday but I was in NYC for work and knew I would never get back in time to pick it up. Glad someone here got it!
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I broke it down and wiped it off.Campy hubs are stamped 72, so clearly not original. The handle bars turned out to be set of GB city bars with some MAFAC city-style levers. Cranks (no name triple) RD & FD are nothing special, (low end Suntour & Shimano). This clearly is a frame from the lower end of their line up but still pretty cool. What I thought was a grease port looks more like a drain hole & plug.
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..... Is there any real reason not to file down cable ends to fit if needed? FB says not to damage the crossovers but newer crossover cables with fatter ends could be filed to size, eh? I've filed down newer shift cable ends to fit older DT shifters with the smaller holes.
And Aaron noted the GB 'lugged stem' on the Viking. Are those really lugged? Or are they just forged to that shape to look like lugged stems?
And Aaron noted the GB 'lugged stem' on the Viking. Are those really lugged? Or are they just forged to that shape to look like lugged stems?
When you file away too much, you'll cut the strands of the floret, and once that's done, the likelihood of the wire pulling out of the head increases dramatically. Not an issue on a gear wire where the worst that will happen is inconvenience, but a potentially dangerous on a brake cable where the failure will happen when you least want it, ie. an emergency stop.
As for your second question, these stems are one piece forgings, and the lugged look is simply a nod to the styles and tastes of the era.
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That is such a neat bike. What the heck is that crank though?
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The end is a die-cast head molded around the wire which has been spread into a "floret" or flower shape resembling a tulip with the outer ends turned back in like an upside down J. It's the floret that gives the head, and connection to the wire it's strength, with the softer metal there mainly to keep the floret from squeezing together and pulling through.