"Classic & Vintage" The ones you don't understand the attraction.
03-28-15, 08:23 AM
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How about ANYTHING Schwinn? Paramounts dont really spin my prop but they might....just might be my exception.
Varsity? Yuck.
Varsity? Yuck.
03-28-15, 08:24 AM
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I don't see the extreme love for the old PX-10 from the early 70's. I mean, they're OK bikes. I had one back then. But it was no special bike and I really can't understand the exorbitant prices I see them going for these days. Would I like to have a minty old one from that era? For nostalgic reasons mostly. Sure. If I could find one for cheap. But that aint gonna happen.
The period where they abandonded the Nervex Pro lugs leaves me a bit flat though.
Your interest is just tempered by a good dose of practicality and conservation of capital.
03-28-15, 08:34 AM
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Two items:
1) This may well irritate folks, but Bridgestone RB-1s come under this category for me.
Love to look at them, but that is one "dead" frame to ride.
I know many other vintage fans like them, but they do zip for me.
I raced one for a year bitd and I was happy to go back to a Colnago Super.
2) The next one is a Panaracer Pasela.
That is one "dead" tire.
I will admit to using them occasionally, as they don't seem to flat on packed gravel.
Past that, I try not to put them on my bikes if I am actually going to ride them.
1) This may well irritate folks, but Bridgestone RB-1s come under this category for me.
Love to look at them, but that is one "dead" frame to ride.
I know many other vintage fans like them, but they do zip for me.
I raced one for a year bitd and I was happy to go back to a Colnago Super.
2) The next one is a Panaracer Pasela.
That is one "dead" tire.
I will admit to using them occasionally, as they don't seem to flat on packed gravel.
Past that, I try not to put them on my bikes if I am actually going to ride them.
03-28-15, 08:37 AM
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For me, I have zero interest in anything European.
I guess my European C&V bike phobia/ambivalence comes from growing up in the '70s and working part time in the LBS assembling new bikes. French threading, Italian threading, English threading... It was maddening. So to simplify things for myself, I settled on mid-grade Japanese bikes. Dependable and economical. Great bang-for-the-buck.
I guess my European C&V bike phobia/ambivalence comes from growing up in the '70s and working part time in the LBS assembling new bikes. French threading, Italian threading, English threading... It was maddening. So to simplify things for myself, I settled on mid-grade Japanese bikes. Dependable and economical. Great bang-for-the-buck.
03-28-15, 08:40 AM
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So what would be your preferred tan wall tire with good puncture protection in 25mm?
What I don't get is artichokes. Why did someone bother to eat the first one, then why did he bother to eat the second?
What I don't get is artichokes. Why did someone bother to eat the first one, then why did he bother to eat the second?
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03-28-15, 08:44 AM
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Silca pumps. Maybe the best bitd, but too outdone by modern options to hold the glow for me that they seem to have with others.
03-28-15, 08:48 AM
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I don't get the cookie cutter Japanese built 80's bikes. Bland, one brand looks like the other, and the Shimano/ SunTour components are lacking in panache. But then I like Stronglight, Simplex, Huret. Gimme a French bike any day. A bike with Simplex Prestige and cottered Stronglight cranks, and tubular tires, it's all I need.
03-28-15, 08:50 AM
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I don't get the cookie cutter Japanese built 80's bikes. Bland, one brand looks like the other, and the Shimano/ SunTour components are lacking in panache. But then I like Stronglight, Simplex, Huret. Gimme a French bike any day. A bike with Simplex Prestige and cottered Stronglight cranks, and tubular tires, it's all I need.
03-28-15, 08:56 AM
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Could we just all let this thread die? We all like stuff others don't. Who cares. There's no need to say I hate xxx and argue about it.
what kind of bear is worst?
what kind of bear is worst?
03-28-15, 09:23 AM
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But this is just about what doesn't blow your skirt up. Kind of pointless though, I agree.
03-28-15, 09:28 AM
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03-28-15, 09:35 AM
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I for one will get on the haters gotta hate bandwagon.
I hate wrenching.
I said it. So many posts about the love of wrenching. I'd rather watch someone wrench. That is more entertaining. Could be because I am completely rebuilding 2 bikes and have just determined a third needs it too. I should only ride them. Then take a nap and dream about riding them. The only work involved should be lifting them off of the hook and taking them upstairs.
That and Italian fixed cups. What the hell were they thinking?
I hate wrenching.
I said it. So many posts about the love of wrenching. I'd rather watch someone wrench. That is more entertaining. Could be because I am completely rebuilding 2 bikes and have just determined a third needs it too. I should only ride them. Then take a nap and dream about riding them. The only work involved should be lifting them off of the hook and taking them upstairs.
That and Italian fixed cups. What the hell were they thinking?
03-28-15, 09:35 AM
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I used plenty of them back in the day, but vintage lighting systems, brake pads, and helmets are safety hazards.
I also eschew kickstands, spoke protectors, stem shifters, and brake lever extension "safety levers."
I had bad experiences with bandspring rear derailleurs.
Most padded saddles exacerbate the discomfort they were supposed to alleviate.
As for the Peugeot comments, I still think the UO-8 is one of the best low-end bike boom 10-speeds, and my 1980 PKN-10 had superb road manners and was a delightful and versatile bike that unfortunately was 2cm too tall for me. The crapsmanship was admittedly embarrassing, with brazing voids on the rear dropouts, brazing splatter around the bottom bracket, slightly misaligned downtube decals, and big ugly seams on the backs of the fork blades. My same-vintage Bianchi is much better put together.
I also eschew kickstands, spoke protectors, stem shifters, and brake lever extension "safety levers."
I had bad experiences with bandspring rear derailleurs.
Most padded saddles exacerbate the discomfort they were supposed to alleviate.
As for the Peugeot comments, I still think the UO-8 is one of the best low-end bike boom 10-speeds, and my 1980 PKN-10 had superb road manners and was a delightful and versatile bike that unfortunately was 2cm too tall for me. The crapsmanship was admittedly embarrassing, with brazing voids on the rear dropouts, brazing splatter around the bottom bracket, slightly misaligned downtube decals, and big ugly seams on the backs of the fork blades. My same-vintage Bianchi is much better put together.
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03-28-15, 09:38 AM
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I think a lot of guys like them because when they were teenagers, they could wander down to the local shop on their Varsity and see, on a pedestal, a pretty, shiny Paramount. It was the ultimate in their world at that time. The shop didn't have Colnago and Bob Jackson and Merckx, it had Schwinn. So with "Paramount" seared into their brains from that early age, they now seek them out.
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03-28-15, 09:38 AM
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03-28-15, 09:39 AM
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I don't freaking get Elton John...and he's vintage. The guy's entire catalogue is worthless.