Garage Queen or ride it??
03-30-15, 10:57 AM
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Actually, if I had one of Eddy's race bikes I doubt I'd be able to resist riding it-- and quite a bit.
03-30-15, 11:30 AM
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Ride it, it' a bicycle. Richard would say the same thing. How sad would it be to own a bike like a Sachs, and never know what it feels to throw a leg over it? Why own it if you can't truly feel the magic?
03-30-15, 12:02 PM
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The first scratch is the hardest, then it becomes an easy choice, just like a car.
What size is it? If it is my size, I will volunteer to ride it until it crumples under my weight or gets a scratch, and then return it for you to enjoy.
What size is it? If it is my size, I will volunteer to ride it until it crumples under my weight or gets a scratch, and then return it for you to enjoy.
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03-30-15, 12:06 PM
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Ride it AND hang it on the wall!
Wall art (these days)...
YeHaaaa, on the road...
And hopes for some more YeHaaaa when I pick up my new/old (nold) Bianchi Pro Race...
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03-30-15, 12:14 PM
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I feel blessed to not have to address that question! All my bikes are used and they show it. That would not prevent me form hanging them on the walls if the other half would allow it! Hanging them would solve the problem of them taking space in the garage!
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03-30-15, 12:39 PM
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I have an early Sachs as well...79'...minty. It's mostly a wall hanger, though I do ride it every now and then. I prefer riding my more modern bikes anyway, the crazier vintage stuff are show pieces for me.
The all bikes must be ridden crowd are welcome to their opinion, but I enjoy riding my Koga more. I think another thing to consider is that very few people here have bikes in this class of "interesting"; a lot of the ride it comments are being made by folks saying I ride mine!, but it's not the same level of bike.
I'd have no problem if you rode the heck out of it every day, but I also think it's probably for the best if a few are also preserved well and in original patina for the future nerds to ohhhh and ahhhh over. If the bike isn't original, it shouldn't be an issue.
The all bikes must be ridden crowd are welcome to their opinion, but I enjoy riding my Koga more. I think another thing to consider is that very few people here have bikes in this class of "interesting"; a lot of the ride it comments are being made by folks saying I ride mine!, but it's not the same level of bike.
I'd have no problem if you rode the heck out of it every day, but I also think it's probably for the best if a few are also preserved well and in original patina for the future nerds to ohhhh and ahhhh over. If the bike isn't original, it shouldn't be an issue.
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03-30-15, 03:25 PM
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When is a bike an investment versus a ride? Today I bought a 1975 Richard Sachs from the original owner. It was RS's 81st build and I have full documentation. It looks like new, seriously. It has not been ridden in 15 years and before that sparingly. I own and ride a good number of 70's and 80's bikes and they are great bikes (Paramount, Roberts, Erickson, etc), but this one stands out as something special. What would you do********** Jeff
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03-30-15, 05:15 PM
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03-30-15, 05:22 PM
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03-30-15, 05:23 PM
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Pictures posted. Jeff
03-30-15, 05:25 PM
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A vintage bike is an investment if you are a vintage bike dealer. I don't understand wringing your hands if you are not a vitage bike dealer.
But if for whatever reason it bothers you, the answer is simple. Buy a second Sachs. Look at one, ride the other. You get both worlds without them colliding.
But if for whatever reason it bothers you, the answer is simple. Buy a second Sachs. Look at one, ride the other. You get both worlds without them colliding.
03-30-15, 05:36 PM
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Ride it or sell it to me and I will ride the snot out of it. Definitely a beauty, as someone else mentioned, wait for the salt to clear from the roads and ride on nice sunny days. It needs to be ridden.
Definitely a beauty, as someone else mentioned, wait for the salt to clear from the roads and ride on nice sunny days. It needs to be ridden.
03-30-15, 05:41 PM
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From the photos, it looks like it wasn't a wall-hanger, it was a hermetically sealed, temperature, humidity and light controlled, motion sensor protected wall hanger. Let it go outside and play.
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03-30-15, 05:55 PM
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Richard's advice. 
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I see a lot of folks saying it needs to be ridden. I'm not sure how y'all manage an "every bike must be ridden!" philosophy when n (as in n+1) becomes more than 4 or 5 bikes...
maybe its because a lot of mine are projects, but I find it tough to get meaningful ride time on all seven of my bikes. and I know folks on here have more bikes than I do!
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I do say ride it, maybe just around the block (literally!) but if you never ride it that's completely cool in my book
maybe its because a lot of mine are projects, but I find it tough to get meaningful ride time on all seven of my bikes. and I know folks on here have more bikes than I do!
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I do say ride it, maybe just around the block (literally!) but if you never ride it that's completely cool in my book
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03-31-15, 05:22 AM
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Everytime I think a bike might be too valuable to ride, I go out to the garage and look at my vintage motorcycle, if I ever get the same thought about that, I guess I'll have to buy a collector car...sigh.
03-31-15, 08:04 AM
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Why did RS build it in the first place? As a museum piece/investment/wall art? Probably not. It's a bike - take good care of it, but ride it.
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03-31-15, 08:47 AM
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The short version - only you can make the call, it doesn’t’ matter what anyone here thinks, including Richard Sachs.
The long version and my opinion – Of course any builder is going to tell you to ride the hell out of their product, that’s what they are for…right? You’re going to get the same advice from bicycle lunks who like to throw their weights down and scream after each set. It looks to be a pristine example of a “40 year old one man shop hand built bicycle”, not some mass produced assembly line fodder so in my eyes it has some importance and value beyond a commuter or exercise bike. You obviously think this as well or you would not be here asking for opinions. Take the Leno approach, meaning appreciate the bicycle for what it is but ride it occasionally taking as much care as you can to keep it nice. You have other “less important bikes” to take the brunt of your ride it hard and put it up wet excursions.
- Richard Sachs
The short version - only you can make the call, it doesn’t’ matter what anyone here thinks, including Richard Sachs.
The long version and my opinion – Of course any builder is going to tell you to ride the hell out of their product, that’s what they are for…right? You’re going to get the same advice from bicycle lunks who like to throw their weights down and scream after each set. It looks to be a pristine example of a “40 year old one man shop hand built bicycle”, not some mass produced assembly line fodder so in my eyes it has some importance and value beyond a commuter or exercise bike. You obviously think this as well or you would not be here asking for opinions. Take the Leno approach, meaning appreciate the bicycle for what it is but ride it occasionally taking as much care as you can to keep it nice. You have other “less important bikes” to take the brunt of your ride it hard and put it up wet excursions.
03-31-15, 09:16 AM
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Was that the bike on CL Boston?
Ride it on nice sunny days, then enjoy cleaning it. Why keep it pristine? For when you are pushing up daisies, someone will be enjoying it? This logic to me doesn't make sense.
Ride it on nice sunny days, then enjoy cleaning it. Why keep it pristine? For when you are pushing up daisies, someone will be enjoying it? This logic to me doesn't make sense.
03-31-15, 09:17 AM
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From the OP list of bikes, goodness is everything he has. Do whatever please you.
Personally, I like to see mechanical things of all sorts being used, antique, vintage or new. If I get the chance to use an old machine tool, I'll take advantage of it. A rare vintage car to drive, sure why not? Same for just observing others use or drive something cool and unique.
I try to ride bike owned and appreciate them for what they are. Yet I may not own anything as nice or upper-end, might have a few interesting bikes. Lately it saddens me to see our vintage Santana tandem not used like it should be. And nothing is so hands-off in my eyes. If I know someone well and they have an appreciation, I gladly loan a special to me bike.
Personally, I like to see mechanical things of all sorts being used, antique, vintage or new. If I get the chance to use an old machine tool, I'll take advantage of it. A rare vintage car to drive, sure why not? Same for just observing others use or drive something cool and unique.
I try to ride bike owned and appreciate them for what they are. Yet I may not own anything as nice or upper-end, might have a few interesting bikes. Lately it saddens me to see our vintage Santana tandem not used like it should be. And nothing is so hands-off in my eyes. If I know someone well and they have an appreciation, I gladly loan a special to me bike.
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