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    Reviving an old friend

    Initially, I want to get my old KHS Fiero road bike from the shed to the indoor trainer.I bought the bike in 1989 as a frame with a no name chrome fork, built it up with what others discarded. I put a lot of miles on that old bike and I think its time to revive it. It wound up with a Nishiki fork that I was lucky enough to fit 27" wheels to it, though I am considering 700c wheels at this time. Really, the first thing after a basic cleaning and lubing will be, new brake hoods. The current one are gooey.


    They say Dia Compe, but no model number. Best place to find replacements?

    Next question.. I am considering 700c wheels to replace my 27" wheels...

    I would likely need a new caliper since this one is almost at it's longest reach now.

    I have no idea the quality of the frame, or even what year it is. But it's value is much more wrapped around sentimental value. It will never be lighter than the 1998 Cannondale R200 I have. So I need it to be able to do things different than that bike does...

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    Maybe something like this for the hoods (or supplier of your choice with same item):

    http://www.amazon.com/Dia-Compe-BL07.../dp/B006FYMX9Q

    Careful now, you just might get N+1 syndrome of the C&V variety. It should be a good project. Many of the KHS bikes are of higher quality than you'd initially expect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrome Molly View Post
    Maybe something like this for the hoods (or supplier of your choice with same item):

    http://www.amazon.com/Dia-Compe-BL07.../dp/B006FYMX9Q

    Careful now, you just might get N+1 syndrome of the C&V variety. It should be a good project. Many of the KHS bikes are of higher quality than you'd initially expect.
    Indeed. For the wheels, 700c will be essentially 4 mm smaller in radius, so that is the telling dimension.
    I would clean the hoods with mineral spirits and note the condition after.

    I would look around though for the brake hoods, I have that era o Dia-Compe levers and the body is taller, I am not sure they will fit.
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    Are the brakes nutted or recessed Allen? Tektro makes some very long reach calipers in both flavors specifically for these 27 to 700c conversions.
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    First off, the hoods are torn and in bad shape.

    Too many years of sitting in the shed and bad moving conditions.


    So I cut the worst hood off. Hoping to find a brand or model number hidden. No joy. But maybe this will be a better view to help...

    I am going to hit a couple older bike shops and the local collective this weekend to see what I can find. I suppose, I could just source some Tektro levers too.

    The Nishiki fork and Dia Compe front brake fit a 700 quite readily.

    And the fork uses recessed hardware. I do not know what year or model Nishiki I got the fork, brake caliper, brake levers, handlebar and stem from. It was 1990 or so and the bike had a broken frame.

    The rear brake is nutted. At present, I'm unsure what I want to do. Giving a ton of thought to 1x10 or 1x11 drivetrain. I don't want to duplicate my other roadbike. Rear spacing is just under 130mm, so I believe some cold setting would be needed. I have no idea of history of KHS road bikes, and nobody I talk to believes KHS made roadbikes back when I got this frame...

    I already have N+1 issues...


    1998 Trek 950, I have the proper Mountain LX cantis, but need the Mountain LX shifter/brake levers. Then it will go back to as close to original as I can get it. It's on cheap heavy rubber right now. but rides good... It is a little small for me, but just getting back in bicycles, this is great for relearning bike handling skills I thought I'd lost...

    I think it looks neat against the front of my Neon, yes, with a pushbar and rally lights...


    1998 Cannondale R200. RSX components, except, 105 triple crank and FD. Bought in 98 for my wife, I crashed hard on this bike three and a half years ago. Nice to be back on it finally. Replaced the front wheel, handlebars and stem.

    This one is sentimental.

    I don't know what year the frame is. We fostered a kid 20 years ago, and I got him into bicycles. He still rides. Last summer he bought a new bicycle, and sent me this one. Just in time for my the third anniversary of my crash. I just had to ride it. Performance Access aluminum 29er, Salsa Woodchippers, Sora brifters... A mix of parts. It felt funny at first, but fits nice now. Yes, the nose of the saddle needs to come down...
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    unless trying to fit a 23mm tire, 700c isn't always the way to go.

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    No, no 23s for me, thinking more like 32s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zjrog View Post
    No, no 23s for me, thinking more like 32s.
    I'm guessing that's what he meant and just got a little dyslectic there for a minute.

    I don't convert to 700c unless I have a specific reason like I just tacoed my 27", or I need bigger tires AND fenders. OTOH, I've got a good number of extra 27" wheels lying around, so there's a financial incentive to make them work out.

    Of course everyone knows you just can't find tires for 27" rims anymore
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    Well, the front wheel I built for this bike 20+ years ago, has rusty eyelets around the spoke nipples. Bummer. And when I took the rear wheel to be trued, several nipples stripped. Took a trip to the nearby bicycle collective and couldn't find remotely matching 27" wheels. However. There was a matching set of Axelrim CT700 wheels with 700x32 tires and tubes, and, a Shimano 8 speed cassette... Turns out, 32s barely fit the rear between the chainstays. And rubs the crown of the fork. So, 700x28s have been thrown on. I already had them on hand. The 700x32 Specialized Nimbus Flak Jackets tires sure are heavy. But I will pass them to my daughter for her Hybrid. Now to see if the friction shifter has enough pull and the Exage 400EX has the reach for 8 speeds...

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    That Trek 950 is the business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zjrog View Post
    ... We fostered a kid ...
    From one to another, nice work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bane View Post
    That Trek 950 is the business.
    I like it a good deal. Its fun to ride and will be more fun with some lighter weight rubber. Thank you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed. View Post
    From one to another, nice work.
    It was a tough time for him. And we were glad to hear back from him. My own son and his wife are fostering much younger kids themselves now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zjrog View Post
    It was a tough time for him. And we were glad to hear back from him. My own son and his wife are fostering much younger kids themselves now.
    Growing up is tough enough, growing up in foster care is tough beyond measure. We're still in touch with a few, and none of them have had an easy time of it. Our last, who we had as an infant, is now cruising in on 13 (in just a wee bit over a week). He, and the family who adopted him, have had a particularly difficult time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed. View Post
    Growing up is tough enough, growing up in foster care is tough beyond measure. We're still in touch with a few, and none of them have had an easy time of it. Our last, who we had as an infant, is now cruising in on 13 (in just a wee bit over a week). He, and the family who adopted him, have had a particularly difficult time.
    We were involved in a program and we did respite for other families in the group, mostly. This kid came to us a few times, but then we got him fulltime. He turned 14 with us, and we got him involved with sports. He is the only one we are in touch with, and we have been lucky enough to meet his wife and his kids... We nearly adopted him, but his grandma was against it. I was in the Navy at the time, and I transferred and never knew how he turned out. He reached out to us a couple years back on Facebook of all places... My wife's health became such, we couldn't continue with foster care.

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    Hoods for those Aero Gran Compe levers can be tough to find, especially at a decent price. Too bad as I find them really comfortable.

    If you don't love them, it would be simpler to go with some new Tektros, or an old pair of 105 levers.

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    Hoods for the Aero Gran Compes are pricey and tough to find. AGC 250 looks to be the model of the brakes. Since I added an 8 speed cassette, might look at 8 speed brifters. Or Tektro levers and 8 speed downtube shifters.

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    Need the rear triangle to be cold set to fit these new wheels right. Fit some Clark brankd brake pads to the old Dia Compe brakes, enough reach front and rear to fit the 700s. The issue I will have is that the olod RD I have, an Exage 400EX, won't cover the bigger cog on the cassette. And pretty sure the the old Schwinn sourced downtube shifters aren't going to cover 8 speeds. My question this evening is which 8 speed RD is still available, or might be the better choice if I stay friction shift?

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