Bicycle misnomenclature
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Peddle is just a misspelling of pedal. Never heard pendle.
Block was somewhat common in the 70's, short for gear block, i.e. freewheel. A straight block was one where each sprocket size was one tooth off its adjacent sprocket.
Block was somewhat common in the 70's, short for gear block, i.e. freewheel. A straight block was one where each sprocket size was one tooth off its adjacent sprocket.
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Not a misspelling, but a different word. To peddle is to sell. You might encounter bike shops named Bike Peddler as a play on words for Pedaler (as a rep I had dealers who used both of those names), one who sells bikes as well as pedals them.
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Related to an earlier post, why do we call bikes "10 speed" or "12 speed" or what have you based on the the freewheel? Once you get rid of two of the cross-chain gears, your'e already down to 8 usable gears on a 5-speed freewheel, and it's probably more like 6 safely.
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I downloaded a browser word-replacement extension a while back specifically to change that word to "gruppo" when i came across it. It's improved my quality of life, I'm sure.
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What??? Only 2 wheels?
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What's the point of using a consistent grupposet anyway?
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Nowadays, everything. There's the cable pull ratio between levers and shifters and levers and brakes, and there's sprocket-spacing differences that must be respected both front and rear. There can even be chainring size steps that have to conform to the particular front derailer.
Manufacturers have shown only slight and intermittent preference for making their gruppo parts compatible with any other maker's parts, and often take measures to assure otherwise.
Manufacturers have shown only slight and intermittent preference for making their gruppo parts compatible with any other maker's parts, and often take measures to assure otherwise.
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The original point was about a gruppo set. Seems rather redundant to me it seems redundant. I didn't do nuthin' but extend the concept.
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Yeah, that's funny. I find that redundant non-words like groupset are sometimes used when introducing unfamiliar subjects to newbies, maybe to help them grasp a concept. But then these new words don't go away and are repeated.
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I've heard a lot of people refer to the "front forks". I wonder if they every think there might be rear forks.
Of course toe clips are really cages, and pedal/shoe combinations with integrated clips are called clipless.
And wonder of wonder, the bicycle manufacturing industry went over to using English measurements (mostly) instead of metric.
Of course toe clips are really cages, and pedal/shoe combinations with integrated clips are called clipless.
And wonder of wonder, the bicycle manufacturing industry went over to using English measurements (mostly) instead of metric.
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Bump. What's your favorite bike misnomenclature?
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verb: rake; 3rd person present: rakes; past tense: raked; past participle: raked; gerund or present participle: raking
1.
set (something, especially a stage or the floor of an auditorium) at a sloping angle.
(of a ship's mast or funnel) incline from the perpendicular toward the stern.
(of a ship's bow or stern) project at its upper part beyond the keel.
noun
noun: rake; plural noun: rakes
1.
the angle at which a thing slopes.
2.
the angle of the edge or face of a cutting tool.
verb: rake; 3rd person present: rakes; past tense: raked; past participle: raked; gerund or present participle: raking
1.
set (something, especially a stage or the floor of an auditorium) at a sloping angle.
(of a ship's mast or funnel) incline from the perpendicular toward the stern.
(of a ship's bow or stern) project at its upper part beyond the keel.
noun
noun: rake; plural noun: rakes
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the angle at which a thing slopes.
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the angle of the edge or face of a cutting tool.
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^^ I suspect someone spent some quality time with their bottom bracket and seat post during construction of that diagram.
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If you think this is ridiculous, you've never listened to people explain their problem to a bike mechanic.
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Crank set vs chain set. Crank sets have no rings unless you are Sheldon. Also wondering which includes the bottom bracket?
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Wikipedia disagrees and so do I:
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A Shimano Deore right crankset, showing crank arm, spider, three chainrings and chainring guard
Belt-drive crankset on a Trek District
A chainring that incorporates the manufacturer's brand name
The crankset (in the US) or chainset (in the UK), is the component of a bicycle drivetrain that converts the reciprocating motion of the rider's legs into rotational motion used to drive the chain or belt, which in turn drives the rear wheel. It consists of one or more sprockets, also called chainrings[1][2][3] or chainwheels[3] attached to the cranks, arms,[4] or crankarms[5] to which the pedals attach. It is connected to the rider by the pedals, to the bicycle frame by the bottom bracket, and to the rear sprocket, cassette or freewheel via the chain.
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Saddle vs seat. I like Sheldon's distinction between the two:
[I]"You'll notice that I do call them "saddles," not "seats." There is a reason for this. A "seat" is something you sit on, and is designed to bear essentially your entire weight. […] A saddle is intended to carry some, but not all of your weight."
[I]"You'll notice that I do call them "saddles," not "seats." There is a reason for this. A "seat" is something you sit on, and is designed to bear essentially your entire weight. […] A saddle is intended to carry some, but not all of your weight."
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I can't find such justification for those who either use the word groupset, or non-Italians who use gruppo.
Something I can totally get is the term used by the uncool, "clip in pedals" because about the absolute dumbest custom is calling modern pedals "clipless". Clips - and distinguishing pedals by the lack of them - is referring to such an arcane term and completely out of the realm of understanding of anyone born after, say, 1965, even enthusiastic and knowledgeable cyclists. And there's no need for them to know or have known about clips.
Clip in pedals is such a better term. Or as some call them, my preferred, automatic pedals or step in pedals, like ski bindings were known when we went from heel straps and toe levers that you had to push down engage the binding.
Thank goodness we don't refer to modern landline phones as "crankless phones".
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