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    Atala Milano- Did I score?

    I had my (very much beloved) Grand Prix released into the wild by a bike thief last week. So that immediately put me back in the market. I went to a flea today and picked up an Atala Milano for $20 (the guy wanted $25 but reduced it to $20 when I told him I was replacing a stolen bike!) It is a very light bike- easily as light as my old GP. I tried to find a SN to no avail. The size (25") was stamped on the frame but can't find an SN. Would like to know the age and what you folks think of what I would consider a score.

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    $20 is certainly cheap enough. It looks like a pretty standard entry level bike boom model, mid-70s. I'd need to see better photos to tell you more. It's probably a $100 bike in decent shape, perhaps a little less. I'm guessing gas pipe and steel rims from the photos, but hard to say for sure.

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    It's an Atala, but Milano (Milan) isn't the model, it's the headquarters of the Company that made Atalas. All Atalas had similar head badge graphics.

    Based on what I could see of the specs, I'd date it to the late sixties or very early seventies at the latest, and it probably sold new for between $135 and $185 or so when new. (depends on the yea because prices were rising rapidly in that era)

    $20.00 doesn't buy much these days, so if it's in decent shape, you got a great deal.

    As for serial number, Atalas of the era usually had the number stamped on the top left side of the seat tube, though some had it stamped on the left rear dropout, or under the BB shell. The location changed because it was easier for the factory to buy pre-numbered dropouts or BB shells, then to individually mark finished frames.
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    I like it!

    Clean, polish, lube and ride. If it fits you well and you like the way it rides, there's lots of room for further improvements without having to rob a bank.

    Looks like the crank set has already been upgraded. It would have had cottered cranks originally.

    Any chance of a drive side shot?

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    Here are some more shots of the bike..The chain is insanely loose- I guess I'll have to remove a few links or buy a new one...I can barely ride it there's so much slack in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by non-fixie View Post
    I like it!

    Clean, polish, lube and ride. If it fits you well and you like the way it rides, there's lots of room for further improvements without having to rob a bank.

    Looks like the crank set has already been upgraded. It would have had cottered cranks originally.

    Any chance of a drive side shot?

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    the score is buying a bike foe 25$.
    in the case of this bike i can tell you atala wasn't a big deal even at his time and components are not italians at all. correct, milano was just the headquarter

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    Thanks for the additional pictures. You did well. This particular Super Maxy version is new to me, but it looks like it also has the familiar 110 BCD, so you can run a fairly small inner chain ring (I think down to 34T). Combined with the 28T you've got at the rear it makes for a very useful gear range. I rode l'Eroica with a 34 x 28 low gear. The SunTour V-GT rear derailleur is excellent.

    $20 well spent, IMO.



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    And you have Gran Compe center pull brakes - nice.

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    Great to hear the components are decent.

    The freewheel was in very bad shape. I swapped that out and put on a new chain today and it rides excellent now.

    I have one other question: The rear of the bike is very heavy (in contrast to the front). I ride this in NYC so light is ideal, especially for over many turnstiles and occasionally many, many stairs. Should I presume it's that derailleur that's so much heavier? I'd like to get it a bit lighter. Thoughts on a replacement derailleur? I'm willing to spend about $100 for a rear derailleur.

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    And you have Gran Compe center pull brakes - nice.

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    I would have bought it just for the RD


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    Quote Originally Posted by seedsbelize View Post
    I would have bought it just for the RD
    If the RD is a VGT Luxe ( couldn't tell from the photo) you can't do much better. If it is a VGT, lose a pound of body weight and all is better.

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    The pivot bolts are looking pretty rusty. I'm betting the chain is loose because the rear derailleur needs some loving and not putting any tension on the chain because it's seized. Either spray some PB blasted or WD40. Yes I said WD40 because this needs all the help it can get. Lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dweenk View Post
    If the RD is a VGT Luxe ( couldn't tell from the photo) you can't do much better. If it is a VGT, lose a pound of body weight and all is better.
    Yeah, looks like a VGT Luxe...so maybe 20g heavier than a shiny new 5600-series Shimano 105 GT. That's not where the weight is on this bike.

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    You (were) exactly right. I swapped the chain and freewheel. Derailleur is in excellent shape now. I used some T9 on the chain and it rides like a dream.


    Quote Originally Posted by Henry III View Post
    The pivot bolts are looking pretty rusty. I'm betting the chain is loose because the rear derailleur needs some loving and not putting any tension on the chain because it's seized. Either spray some PB blasted or WD40. Yes I said WD40 because this needs all the help it can get. Lol.

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    Nice find, and well worth price. I don't care for the low-end aluminum crankset, but that SunTour rear derailleur is indeed a keeper, and the frame should serve well for general recreation and transportation, as my Peugeot UO-8 does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeronson View Post
    Great to hear the components are decent.

    The freewheel was in very bad shape. I swapped that out and put on a new chain today and it rides excellent now.

    I have one other question: The rear of the bike is very heavy (in contrast to the front). I ride this in NYC so light is ideal, especially for over many turnstiles and occasionally many, many stairs. Should I presume it's that derailleur that's so much heavier? I'd like to get it a bit lighter. Thoughts on a replacement derailleur? I'm willing to spend about $100 for a rear derailleur.

    Thank you to everyone.
    That is a great score man! Any bike at $25 is a win. You definitely do not need to spend $100 on a RD. That VGT Luxe is a great RD. Stick with it. You now have a nice NYC commuter. Welcome to the NYC commuting/biking scene.

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    You scored with Alyssa Milano?

    Hells yeah that's a score!
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    In the second picture it looks like the rear wheel has a steel rim, whereas the front looks like aluminum. That could explain the weight difference.

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    Make sure you check out that quill stem, they can be snapped off inside the headtube, and feel solid because they are just stuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Golden Boy View Post
    You scored with Alyssa Milano?

    Hells yeah that's a score!


    The bike for $20 ain't bad either.
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    Good call. I'm going to ride the bike for a week and by the end of the week I'm going to decide if I'm going to put new wheels on it. I already have gator skin slicks and thorn resistant tubes ordered. Thanks.


    Quote Originally Posted by non-fixie View Post
    In the second picture it looks like the rear wheel has a steel rim, whereas the front looks like aluminum. That could explain the weight difference.

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    I didn't state if you lubed the RD. if you haven't, do it and you will find improved operation. I agree that the rear wheel looks like steel (weight). The rest of the weight is in the frame.

    Clean, lube and polish for improved performance overall, including the brake calipers pivot points. Consider cable replacement too.

    Hard to loose for $20! I have done worse for $20!
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    Thank you. Yes the rear feels almost 2/3 heavier than the front. I'd like to balance the weight out more if I can, especially considering the 5# NY lock I have on the bike. The derailleur operates wonderfully. I took the bike into the city this morning for an inaugural ride and it was fantastic.

    Can someone recommend a quality light rear 700 wheel for ~100-150 ?
    Thank you again


    Quote Originally Posted by SJX426 View Post
    I didn't state if you lubed the RD. if you haven't, do it and you will find improved operation. I agree that the rear wheel looks like steel (weight). The rest of the weight is in the frame.

    Clean, lube and polish for improved performance overall, including the brake calipers pivot points. Consider cable replacement too.

    Hard to loose for $20! I have done worse for $20!

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    Other than the rear wheel, you won't get much lighter. When replacing the wheel, note that you have a freewheel, not a cassette with a freehub. Your spacing of the rear drop outs is probably 120 which is indicated by the 5 speed freewheel. A potential replacements needs to be carefully identified or it won't work without more modifications.

    If you keep this thread up to date, we will likely help you through this, if you want to change the rear wheel. The other option is to rebuild the wheel with an Aluminum rim. You may want to use the search on here to find lots of discussions on both topics, wheel replacement and rim replacement.
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    A big FW adds some weight to the rear but that all depends on how big you need.

    I'd say don't let that chain rub up against that orange sofa or somebody is going to be really ticked. Otherwise, you got a great deal, good components, a bike worthy of upgrades too.
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