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    Vintage Look KG66 Carbo frameset.

    Hi, I am new to this forum and I have a few questions. I found this, Vintage Look KG66 Carbo Composite Frame Frameset Size 60cm | eBay, vintage Look Carbo KG66 frameset on ebay and I am thinking about building it up, I would love to know if this is a sound investment...

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    Old bikes aren't really an investment. They're more of a way of spending your investments down than up. That said, I'd pass on this bike. If you want a vintage bike that can hold its value, classic steel frames do better than carbon or most aluminum frames as well.

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    I'd definately pass. Carbon bike construction/design back then wasn't phenomenal. Not that it would break under you, just it's not going to preform under you. (There's a reason they look so different these days). And carbon bikes from that era don't have much collectable value compared to the performance steel bikes of the time.
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    There is a niche for these old carbon bikes, so I wouldn't dismiss them so easily.

    @Chombi has a couple of very nice old carbon bikes...
    Colnago Super
    Torelli Pista
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    Thanks so much guys. I am really looking for a project. I want a vintage road/race bike that I can use as my daily commuter. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Obviously everyone has their opinions, but some bikes must be better than others. I have been told to stick to Japanese manufacturers if I'm looking for something from the 70's or 80's. Is this true? I have the time and tools to build up a bike, so a frameset is all I'm looking for.

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    I think it's a cool frame and would make for a nice project. Don't expect new carbon characteristics but don't don't think it's going to snap in half on you your first ride.

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    Don't know what your needs are precisely, but for many people, a sport tourer or even a touring frame or modified rigid mtb works better as a commuter than a pure race bike. Think about fender and/or rack eyelets, tire clearance (many like 28 mm tires or even bigger for rough roads), etc.

    Something like a Raleigh Super Course, or any number of Japanese 80's bikes - Centurion, Miyata, Univega, Panasonic, etc.

    Ymmv.

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    This was on my radar last year. Collectable, I don't know but I think they're unique enough to separate themselves from other CF, interesting history. $240 was the asking.



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    Your solution is n+1. You need at least one more bike than you have. As soon as you get one, you need another.

    I kinda like the LOOK of it but I would not necessarily buy it for commuting.

    This is what I commute on during the winter or threatening weather:
    [IMG]Commuter RockHopper by superissimo_83, on Flickr[/IMG]

    I need to take change of clothing, food and other stuff much of the time. When the weather gets better, I don't need a change in clothing to ride and I take a bunch of cloths for the week in one day. Then the rest of the week is free from weight and I can ride this to work, of which I am in the second week of using. 2-3 MPH difference in Average speed.

    [IMG]P1020128 by superissimo_83, on Flickr[/IMG]
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    Quote Originally Posted by msherman View Post
    Thanks so much guys. I am really looking for a project. I want a vintage road/race bike that I can use as my daily commuter. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Obviously everyone has their opinions, but some bikes must be better than others. I have been told to stick to Japanese manufacturers if I'm looking for something from the 70's or 80's. Is this true? I have the time and tools to build up a bike, so a frameset is all I'm looking for.
    For a commuter, I'd look for a steel bike, either a sports touring or touring road frame or a vintage mtb. Japanese bikes from the 70s and 80s make great platforms because they were and are beautiful bikes, the prices are not too crazy, and parts are very readily available. All good things in a commuter. A vintage trek is also a very good choice.

    If you want something collectible and rideable, I'd look for a bridgestone xo series bikes. They make great commuters but can be a bit hard to find. The XO-1 is very difficult to find, the other models not as much.

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    Thanks guys. I will keep searching. This guy on ebay declined my offer, his loss... I think. I have a single speed schwinn cutter that I use for my commuter, but I've been spoiled by my Trek Madone and I can't stand not having gears! So now I am on this never ending hunt for n+1, my next bike.

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