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In chronological order
1933 ------ 1948/49 ------ 1950ish ------ 1953ish ------ 1959ish ------ 2009 - I was bored today.
Chronological Order 01 by iabisdb, on Flickr
Chronological Order 02 by iabisdb, on Flickr
Chronological Order 03 by iabisdb, on Flickr
Chronological Order 04 by iabisdb, on Flickr
Chronological Order 01 by iabisdb, on FlickrChronological Order 02 by iabisdb, on FlickrChronological Order 03 by iabisdb, on FlickrChronological Order 04 by iabisdb, on Flickr
06-06-15, 04:57 PM
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Fun idea, though I feel like each of these warrants a full spread/centerfold. I'd love to see details and hear more about these.
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You have seen all of them before Aaron. But if you want the nickel tour ...
1933 Frejus Model A - same year, make and model of Gino Bartali's first pro bike - https://www.flickr.com/photos/681231...57627790534336
1948/49 Viscontea pista - owned originally by the Teruzzi family, raced at the Vigorelli - https://www.flickr.com/photos/681231...57650164532378
1950ish Pecorari cambio corsa - small builder out of Emilia Reggio - https://www.flickr.com/photos/681231...57651905664892
1953ish Bianchi Selvino - "hot rodded", Sunday-going-to-church bike - https://www.flickr.com/photos/681231...57645260502157
1959ish Cinelli Model B - same year, make and model as Viktor Kapitonov's gold medal bike - https://www.flickr.com/photos/681231...57627790730860
2009 Cinelli XCR - stainless steel, serial #002 - https://www.flickr.com/photos/681231...57627792847458
1933 Frejus Model A - same year, make and model of Gino Bartali's first pro bike - https://www.flickr.com/photos/681231...57627790534336
1948/49 Viscontea pista - owned originally by the Teruzzi family, raced at the Vigorelli - https://www.flickr.com/photos/681231...57650164532378
1950ish Pecorari cambio corsa - small builder out of Emilia Reggio - https://www.flickr.com/photos/681231...57651905664892
1953ish Bianchi Selvino - "hot rodded", Sunday-going-to-church bike - https://www.flickr.com/photos/681231...57645260502157
1959ish Cinelli Model B - same year, make and model as Viktor Kapitonov's gold medal bike - https://www.flickr.com/photos/681231...57627790730860
2009 Cinelli XCR - stainless steel, serial #002 - https://www.flickr.com/photos/681231...57627792847458
06-06-15, 05:31 PM
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Of course I have...but if you're going to show them off, do it right. Bikes like these can be appreciated time after time. LOVE the Frejus.
06-06-15, 05:43 PM
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Great collection, Iab. The Pecorari and the '59 Cinelli are my favorites. Thanks for showing the flickr album.
(That looks just like my furnace room.)
(That looks just like my furnace room.)
06-06-15, 05:58 PM
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Love the Viscontea, something really cool about the intact period decals. There is so much right about that bike, plus I have a thing for vintage track iron.
06-06-15, 06:21 PM
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Nice.
I don't quite get how you shift the rear cogs on the 1933 Frejus Model A. Looks like a rod that pivots to push the "high" or "low" tab to move the chain. But where do you control it ? That "handle" at the top of the idler arm ?
I was surprised to see wingnuts instead of QR levers on the 1959ish Cinelli Model B. Weren't qr levers common by then ? Or only on Campy hubs ?
I don't quite get how you shift the rear cogs on the 1933 Frejus Model A. Looks like a rod that pivots to push the "high" or "low" tab to move the chain. But where do you control it ? That "handle" at the top of the idler arm ?
I was surprised to see wingnuts instead of QR levers on the 1959ish Cinelli Model B. Weren't qr levers common by then ? Or only on Campy hubs ?
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06-06-15, 06:38 PM
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The lever is for tensioning the chain only.
My pictures show a gen 1 and gen 2 Vittoria Margherita. The gen 1 is "correct". With gen 1, you use your hand to move the chain while back pedaling. With gen 2 the triangle on top of the lever twists and moves the flappers on the chain stay which in turn moves the chain while back pedaling.
My pictures show a gen 1 and gen 2 Vittoria Margherita. The gen 1 is "correct". With gen 1, you use your hand to move the chain while back pedaling. With gen 2 the triangle on top of the lever twists and moves the flappers on the chain stay which in turn moves the chain while back pedaling.
06-06-15, 06:39 PM
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Nice.
I don't quite get how you shift the rear cogs on the 1933 Frejus Model A. Looks like a rod that pivots to push the "high" or "low" tab to move the chain. But where do you control it ? That "handle" at the top of the idler arm ?
I was surprised to see wingnuts instead of QR levers on the 1959ish Cinelli Model B. Weren't qr levers common by then ? Or only on Campy hubs ?
I don't quite get how you shift the rear cogs on the 1933 Frejus Model A. Looks like a rod that pivots to push the "high" or "low" tab to move the chain. But where do you control it ? That "handle" at the top of the idler arm ?
I was surprised to see wingnuts instead of QR levers on the 1959ish Cinelli Model B. Weren't qr levers common by then ? Or only on Campy hubs ?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AIZhSNdO_Zo
YouTube video of cambio corsa in action, note one must backpedal to shift, so you better have some forward momentum if you are going uphill as you have to coast and pedal backwards to shift. One must shift well before need. No shifting under power.
And do something I cannot do, reach that far down and back on the right hand side.
06-06-15, 06:47 PM
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The lever is for tensioning the chain only.
My pictures show a gen 1 and gen 2 Vittoria Margherita. The gen 1 is "correct". With gen 1, you use your hand to move the chain while back pedaling. With gen 2 the triangle on top of the lever twists and moves the flappers on the chain stay which in turn moves the chain while back pedaling.
My pictures show a gen 1 and gen 2 Vittoria Margherita. The gen 1 is "correct". With gen 1, you use your hand to move the chain while back pedaling. With gen 2 the triangle on top of the lever twists and moves the flappers on the chain stay which in turn moves the chain while back pedaling.
06-06-15, 06:49 PM
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Some really nice bikes you have there. Thanks for sharing.
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06-06-15, 07:48 PM
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Great collection. I admire the amount of detail you photograph.
06-06-15, 08:06 PM
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You have a really awesome collection. 
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06-06-15, 08:14 PM
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Nice bikes. Thanks for the links.
06-06-15, 08:24 PM
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This thread comes at a timely time, for me. I love the bicycles and the simplicity of presentation. Well done.
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As I speak about the Intent in why the Thread was begun:
Anyone (esp a bike owner) who be "bored" who wants to find a way to spend time: do it via detailing further cleanliness of the bicycles.
NO owner ever will protest that.
Never had that thought, HUH?
Anyone (esp a bike owner) who be "bored" who wants to find a way to spend time: do it via detailing further cleanliness of the bicycles.
NO owner ever will protest that.
Never had that thought, HUH?
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Man I love #5 . Gorgeous.
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I'm a big fan of all of those but I'd really love to have that XCR. Out of curiosity how does it ride?
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Ummm, I would. I hate maintenance. I'd rather just ride. The Frejus needs a good once over and I have been putting it off. When I was putting away my bike from the ride yesterday, I noticed they almost in the "correct" order. Had nothing better to do so I moved them around, and Bob's yer uncle.
06-07-15, 06:12 AM
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Surprisingly, quite similar to the Cinelli Model B. The wheelbase is shorter making it more agile. But even with the stiff wheelset, very smooth over road chatter.
