Chombi

JPR Seatpost French Fluted 27 0 Vintage Road Racing Track Tour Bicycle | eBay
So PB bikes is now trying to ratchet up the asking prices for JPR seatposts??......
I guess they gave up trying to sell the JPR platform pedals they had for sale at eBay for the silly price of over 500 bucks, now they are trying to influence the prices of the still affordable seatposts??
Stop it already PB bikes!!

wrk101

Somehow, some way, this guy actually sells quite a bit of stuff.

Chrome Molly

Makes BBC look downright reasonable.

Pemetic2006

He also has a Campy seatpost for over $337. I only paid $300 for mine, but it came with a bike....

Velocivixen

I believe the seller is a "she".

wrk101

Then good for her. Compared to BBC, she seems to complete some sales at scary high prices. More power to her, and she enjoys perfect feedback, so the buyers are happy, which is all that matters.

lostarchitect 

Just ignore them and move on.

Chombi

Yes, good for her but bad for us C&Vers that will now see JPR seatpost prices start to go up for no real reason because they are not rare and frankly, not the best finished seatpost out there. I've seen this before......
I just don't want to see the day that I can't recommend JPR seatposts to French bike fan C&Vers that need a good French seatpost for their bikes because the prices for them had suddenly gone through the roof!

RobbieTunes

Well, that may explain it. Pretty girls, real or imagined, and men......logic often be damned.

nlerner

I thought pb**bikes was Barry Scott. I'm pretty sure he's a he.

OldsCOOL

Dude, what's the complaint? It's at a 25% markdown! Buy it now!!!!

Velocivixen

I could be wrong. A bike mechanic I know said they thought it was a woman. Ok I stand corrected.

iab

I met Barry at a vintage event. Nice fellow.

As for a dealer driving up prices, hogwash. Price is determined by the market will bear.

repechage

That made me laugh.

repechage

No, to a point you are right and Chombi is correct too.
I have watched items from time to time rise with an influential seller (high feedback number) offering things for a super high price and human greed as it is, other more lazy sellers, jump on the bandwagon, also listing items for near high a price. The result is the stuff does not sell as demand is elastic. For a time. At some point, demand rises to meet the price or near too it. ( strategy, offer the same item for 70% of the stupid silly price and you may cash in) eventually, a less greedy seller will offer the item for a reasonable price and it gets snapped up fast.
Sometimes the "tulip" market crashes. Cinelli quilted top saddles have plunged in asking price, the market eventually corrects, is sticky coming down, and those same unsold items will probably return to mess up the market once again.
So, it depends on your tolerance of time. Need it NOW? Pay the asking price at the time.
eBay is an interesting economic theater, provides a lab of economic theory in actual practice.
Would like to hear a lecture by my price theory and resource allocation professor today on the subject.

iab

Outliers have a minimal effect on the overall market. There are just as many, "I got that part for a nickel", as there are Barry sold that part for $500. Every bubble is burst. Even if Barry stole the crop report from Lewis and Billy-Ray, there is no way he can sustain a bubble. Never happened in the history of capitalism.

repechage

Key concept is over time.

My surprise is the overall continued flow of additional stock to the classic and vintage part marketplace. Some things are disappearing, NOS Regina Oro ( the original, not the extra oro) chains as an example, the supply of other items is amazing in its renewal considering it is long out of production.
Maybe like Campagnolo brake hoods, the means of production will return. Wonder how big an order would be required for Regina to resume the classic Regina Oro chain to production? They still make chains...

raymond1354

Surprising at first glance, but maybe not so. Bikes have a long life expectancy, bicycle chains wear out. Most bikes are bought and ridden little - someone once said there's a 100 million sitting unused in garages in the U.S. Those bikes will be a continuous pool of parts for years to come.

r

Binky

But today is not the day:
JPR pedals for US $750 !!!
I bought a pair of these for $50.... but they had a Bottecchia Gran Turismo attached !!

See here:

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Routens-JPR-Pedals-Very-Rare-Cast-Aluminum-Vintage-Racing-Touring-/151712606688?


https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Routens-JPR-Pedals-Very-Rare-Cast-Aluminum-Vintage-Racing-Touring-bicycle-NOS-/271817932499

Binky

repechage

I should have specified NOS parts, it is amazing actually all the dead stock that end up coming to market decades on.
I have wondered if the tax laws in Europe are in some countries different enough to be benign to the amassing of inventory.
Or, the distribution system was such that large orders to the actual mfg. we're required instead of discreet inventory replenishment from a stocking distributor.

TimmyT 

Another pb*bikes thread?

Yawn + cat tax.

raymond1354

I have only vague recollections of how my father managed inventories and orders when I was a kid and they are quite different than practices today. He wasn't in the bike business though.

NOS parts from the "vintage" era are finite in number and will eventually run out. As they become scarce prices will rise even further given demand. If you look at Barry Scott's feedback you can get a rough idea of his monthly sales which are ginormous. This, to me, suggests he maybe is not charging enough.

r

iab

I'm not convinced a single dealer and a few copy cats could ever create a bubble.

If there is a price shift it is more likely that the NOS market is artificially low and Barry brings it to where it should be. Sellers of vintage bike crap can't ever be greedy as they have zero power over over the buyer. They aren't selling water in the desert or drugs to a dying person. The notion they manipulate buyers is far fetched, especially without any data to support the claim.

rootboy 

PB-BIKES is the Anti-Christ of the parts world.

OldsCOOL