What would you pay for...
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What would you pay for...
A 1994 TdF team bike, with name on the top tube (relatively unknown) but good provenance?
SLX frame, record group and TT bars, one owner since it left the team shed in 1995.
I put this here rather than appraisals, as it's more the objective value in an individual opinion than interest in buying it.
This bike, with TT bars:
SLX frame, record group and TT bars, one owner since it left the team shed in 1995.
I put this here rather than appraisals, as it's more the objective value in an individual opinion than interest in buying it.
This bike, with TT bars:
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As possibly the last TDF team to use standard-size steel tubing in a lugged frame...
Please post a photo of the bike!
I have a very thorough replica of a Team Polti Coppi with lugged, oversized steel tubing from perhaps that same year.
Please post a photo of the bike!
I have a very thorough replica of a Team Polti Coppi with lugged, oversized steel tubing from perhaps that same year.
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Hard to say. Assuming it's in good condition, I think a typical, well-presented, Record-equipped, SLX bike might fall in the $1500 range, give or take a couple hundred. Really nice, sought-after models (Cinelli, De Rosa, Merckx, etc.) maybe a little more. Being a TdF bike with provenance might fetch a ~15% premium, maybe? Perhaps more if it was a well-known rider, but not an unknown domestique, IMHO. I really don't know. However, MBK is not a brand that has a big following, at least here in the US. (Did Motobecane become MBK after they went bankrupt?) I think the MBK label would hurt the sale price (-15%) since it's not likely to have a following or retain its value in the future, but maybe that's just me. People in the US don't see as many true UCI team bikes as you must in France, so it's hard to say how much that premium is worth in France versus elsewhere. It's also pink, with an 80s flair, a deterrent for some. In all, maybe $1400 USD would be my wild speculative guess. Edit: But you asked what I would pay, and it would be less than that.
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Having been ridden in the TdF, it surely helps the value.
Having been ridden in the TdF, it quite possibly is beat up and lowers the value.
Both things are equally true, IMO, depending on the buyer.
Reminds me of a day many moons ago, working at Diablo Bike in Walnut Creek, CA. Bob Roll (yeah, Bobke hisself) rolled into the shop a few weeks after the TdF with his 7-11 team bike (he went to high school in nearby Pleasant Hill, I believe). He wanted to sell his bike on consignment. We took a look at it, the brake levers were all scraped up, there were dents in the frame, and touch up paint all over the place. The wheels were relatively true, but not very round. Rust was growing on the top tube, and one of the cable guides was no longer attached to the frame. It looked like it had been through hell and back - not a bad definition for the Tour? Domestiques like Bob got second hand bikes painted up in team colors is the story I heard.
Sold for over $1200 (in 1980's dollars)
Having been ridden in the TdF, it quite possibly is beat up and lowers the value.
Both things are equally true, IMO, depending on the buyer.
Reminds me of a day many moons ago, working at Diablo Bike in Walnut Creek, CA. Bob Roll (yeah, Bobke hisself) rolled into the shop a few weeks after the TdF with his 7-11 team bike (he went to high school in nearby Pleasant Hill, I believe). He wanted to sell his bike on consignment. We took a look at it, the brake levers were all scraped up, there were dents in the frame, and touch up paint all over the place. The wheels were relatively true, but not very round. Rust was growing on the top tube, and one of the cable guides was no longer attached to the frame. It looked like it had been through hell and back - not a bad definition for the Tour? Domestiques like Bob got second hand bikes painted up in team colors is the story I heard.
Sold for over $1200 (in 1980's dollars)
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I think it depends on the frame. A Merckx like that would be worth more than a Bottechia. Unless it's a known rider, provenance doesn't really add much value in my experience...so really it's the frame that you're selling.
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Jaan Kirsipuu was certainly not an unknown domestique, at least not in Europe. He was one of the better sprinters in the pro peloton in the late nineties. Spent six days in the Tdf's yellow jersey as a result.
I'd offer it for sale in Estonia. He won the national title there fifteen times.
I'd offer it for sale in Estonia. He won the national title there fifteen times.
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