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Old 08-19-15, 05:04 PM
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Very nice, with the triplitizer secret weapon.
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Originally Posted by Barrettscv
Hi S-R,

Adding fenders has lost some of it's appeal as I finished the bike. The Compass Stampede Pass '32 tires now measure about 31.5mm wide and fitting a fender under the fork crown is looking to be problematic. I'm also concerned that heavy accessories might make the bike feel sluggish. The bike feels sporty to ride and about equal to my more speed oriented bikes.

I'm going to ride it as-is for now and use other bikes on damp days.
Thanks. I'm on the fence about adding fenders to a build for similar reasons, though clearance isn't an issue. I already have the fenders for the build (pretty neat French C&V Aluminum), had every intention of mounting them (and I suppose I still do), but just haven't gotten around to it. Riding and higher priority wrenching have taken over for now. Nice looking bike.
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The fenders won't look bad actually. These are VO with plenty of clearance on 28 Panaracers. I may get something fatter soon, these were bought ON a ride, when the rear tire decided to get punctured by a twig. They were quite dry though. I always meant to get this thing back up and running. It sat for too long unused. Wrap and saddle will change too. 197(3?) Volkscycle Mark 100.,,,,BD

BTW? AWESOME build and paint!

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Nice job @Barrettscv
I kind of want a Px-10.

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What is this? It looks like a high end Japanese frame from the late 70s, but I can't be certain.
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I have a similar white PX10. I was surprised to find out that the bike was originally cleared over the decals. I read that the chrome seat stays and chain stays were cleared to protect some really chintzy chrome plating but nothing was mentioned about the rest of the frame paintwork. Cool bikes, too bad they used junk plastic derailleurs. French national pride, but probably ridiculous French snobbery was the reason for it. They should have had Campy parts and we all would have been extremely grateful for that 30 plus years later. It is what it is, and if we must have originality and I must. It's junk plastic derailleurs for me.
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Originally Posted by momo608
I have a similar white PX10. I was surprised to find out that the bike was originally cleared over the decals. I read that the chrome seat stays and chain stays were cleared to protect some really chintzy chrome plating but nothing was mentioned about the rest of the frame paintwork. Cool bikes, too bad they used junk plastic derailleurs. French national pride, but probably ridiculous French snobbery was the reason for it. They should have had Campy parts and we all would have been extremely grateful for that 30 plus years later. It is what it is, and if we must have originality and I must. It's junk plastic derailleurs for me.
I agree with all of this. There is a clearcoat on the chrome and the decals might have been coated also. Simplex's use of Delron was a terrible idea. The derailleurs probably would have been excellent if they had used alloy parts. My Motobecane Grand Record is Campagnolo, it will be fun to experience the difference.

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Originally Posted by greg3rd48
It is looking great. I will be sure to follow this thread since I have a lovely PX waiting in the queue. Next year sometime. Did you lace the Normandy hubs to the CR18 rims? I just used a wheelset from Velomine with the CR18 rims for my Super Course TT build and I like them so far.
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That's the sort of paint touchup I want to do on the 1960 Capo, instead of splurging on a full repaint, as I did on the 1959.

I have always liked the early 1960s Peugeot graphics, which also grace my lowly 1970 UO-8, and your PX-10 is going to be one fine-looking classic! It is also hard to beat the road manners, handling, and ride quality.
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This bike looks great. Looking forward to seeing the complete build!
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The fenders won't look bad actually. These are VO with plenty of clearance on 28 Panaracers. I may get something fatter soon, these were bought ON a ride, when the rear tire decided to get punctured by a twig. They were quite dry though. I always meant to get this thing back up and running. It sat for too long unused. Wrap and saddle will change too. 197(3?) Volkscycle Mark 100.,,,,BD

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Nice job @Barrettscv
I kind of want a Px-10.
Thank you for the kind words everyone
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Originally Posted by Chrome Molly
Very nice, with the triplitizer secret weapon.
Hi Pete,

It's interesting to compare the PX10 with my Simoncini Cyclocross Special and to my modern carbon Cyclocross bike, all with the same general size and type of tire. On pavement the PX10 performs as well as these newer bikes and the PX10 is better in most ways on gravel. The handling is very stable and the ride is very plush on the PX10. This makes it a little easier to hold speed on maintained gravel paths and roads. The transition from pavement to gravel is minimal, the ride and speed feel equivalent. It also feels more relaxed and planted than the Cyclocross bikes. The handling has a set-it-and-forget-it quality that inspires confidence on uneven surfaces. I came across a section of loose chip seal gravel while cornering at 20 mph on the PX10 and the bike gently drifted across the marbles without needing any correction from the rider. I've drifted across loose surfaces on my Cyclocross bikes and they stay upright, but with less confidence.

The Cyclocross bikes are more responsive on technical trails. They feel like modern endurance racing bikes most of the time and are quicker in tight corners or in a pack of riders. But the PX10 would probably perform better at L'Eroica and it can pass inspection. My Simoncini Cyclocross bike would not pass inspection at L'Eroica without some kind of exemption to the cantilever brake prohibition. The PX10 would ride better and faster than the Simoncini on gravel, IMO.
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Originally Posted by Barrettscv
Hi Pete,

It's interesting to compare the PX10 with my Simoncini Cyclocross Special and to my modern carbon Cyclocross bike, all with the same general size and type of tire. On pavement the PX10 performs as well as these newer bikes and the PX10 is better in most ways on gravel. The handling is very stable and the ride is very plush on the PX10. This makes it a little easier to hold speed on maintained gravel paths and roads. The transition from pavement to gravel is minimal, the ride and speed feel equivalent. It also feels more relaxed and planted than the Cyclocross bikes. The handling has a set-it-and-forget-it quality that inspires confidence on uneven surfaces. I came across a section of loose chip seal gravel while cornering at 20 mph on the PX10 and the bike gently drifted across the marbles without needing any correction from the rider. I've drifted across loose surfaces on my Cyclocross bikes and they stay upright, but with less confidence.

The Cyclocross bikes are more responsive on technical trails. They feel like modern endurance racing bikes most of the time and are quicker in tight corners or in a pack of riders. But the PX10 would probably perform better at L'Eroica and it can pass inspection. My Simoncini Cyclocross bike would not pass inspection at L'Eroica without some kind of exemption to the cantilever brake prohibition. The PX10 would ride better and faster than the Simoncini on gravel, IMO.
Thanks for the info, and comparisons. There is quite a range of cross bikes, but many of the modern ones are somewhat twitchy. That makes sense given the closeness of many cyclocross venues. That's sort of what led to the whole "designation" of some modern cross bikes as gravel bikes. Some object to the distinction, but the difference is pretty much what you describe between a more relaxed rider and a "quicker" competition cyclocross bike.

I really like the way your's turned out. The paint is very nice.

I'm after a slightly different (but very similar) animal. Basically the same bike, but with the tires in the 25-27 range. Sort of a fast-slower bike (as compared to my modernized stuff). It would be the go to when I want a long stable ride without the hammering. The clearance on your frame is a bonus that makes it very appealing for the longer gravel rides, where there are enough riders to retain a road ride feel in terms of pack riding and occasional sprinting up to the next group. I have my eyes open for a similar vintage road bike in my size.
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