eschlwc

i've run into this a few times before: i get my hands on some great vintage pedals worth $30-$50, i start to overhaul them, and later realize i can't adjust their lock nuts due to a stripped tooth on the keyed washer.

is there a source for cheap keyed washers besides another set of expensive pedals?

the latest find was a beautiful pair of campy record knockoffs, kkt pro ace pedals. they're awesome. but neither washer has any tooth left. here's a pic of the washer:



washer dimensions:
13mm outside diameter
7mm inside diameter
1mm long (missing) key/tooth
2mm washer depth

i'll keep looking in the 'used' bin at my lbs, but i do wish i had about twenty of these keyed washers in slightly different sizes.

eschlwc

you can see the 'key' (tooth) at the bottom of the washer that finally failed after 35 years.

Vintage Raleigh

Scott at SD BICYCLE GARAGE has those keyed washers for Campagnolo pedals I believe.
info@sdbicyclegarage.com

eschlwc

^ thank you. i'll give him a shout.

on a related campy note ... i've only one experience with real campy road pedals (with the strap guide) i assume on which these 'pro ace' pedals are based. when i overhauled those campy ones, i was in love with their design that allowed a hub cone wrench to stabilize the pedal cone while i tightened the lock nut. there was no need for a keyed washer! i wish the cone of these kkt pedals (and all c&v platforms for that matter) protruded out far enough to allow the same ease of service. but, so it goes...

Michael Angelo 

I use a small punch and vise to "pinch" the inside of the washer then use a small file to make another "Key". It's worked plenty of times for me.

eschlwc

man, i wish i knew how to do that. if you could expand on that method, please do.

JohnDThompson 

The KKT Pro-Ace was a faithful copy of Campagnolo's pedal, and parts that fit Campagnolo pedals will also work with the Pro-Ace. Not just Campagnolo parts, but also those from Gipiemme, Ofmega, and others. Pedals axle sets for these appear on eBay every so often, so keep your eyes peeled.

Velognome 

I've done the same to rejuvenate a botched washer. eschlwch, just strike the old washer tab with a punch, it will push enough material out to make the tab useful again. A work of caution, it will be weaker than the original so use care.

M Angelo- You've formed tabs on new washers this way?

fietsbob

Take a washer with same OD, but a Smaller ID and file away enough to leave the tab when you're finished .

I've stopped the cone from Rotating with a Screwdriver against its flats , while I tightened the Nut with a wrench ,
which is the function of the tab . before..

eschlwc

yep. he got back to me today with washer dimensions and affordable pricing.

the campy washers have a smaller o.d. and depth, but the i.d. is basically the same, so i'm going to try them.

cheers!

rootboy 

Scott is a good guy to deal with, no?

Vintage Raleigh

Came across Scott's eBay store and bought a nos steel Campagnolo pedal dust cap for the Raleigh. Goods delivered in a timely manner. Costs reasonable. No probs. Contacted him on another bike related enquiry - (a Nuovo Record seat pillar) via his website without realising I'd already had dealings with him and he got back to me quickly. The pillar was nos and $50 cheaper than another eBay seller. Emailed him again about a pedal washer (of all things - probably sparked by this post) which I thought was missing, he was very helpful and through his deductions, concluded the washer I had was added by a previous repair. Scott asked if the pedal shafts were the same length or whether the thread was damaged hence the washer. He didn't have to do any of those things.

eschlwc

yeah, baby!

got the campy washers today from scott at sdbicyclegarage.com, and they worked like a charm.

you can see they're a little smaller than the originals, but the i.d. is roughly the same. i didn't need to do any filing.



didn't struggle with adjusting these at all. took about five minutes for both.

these 35 year old kkt pro ace pedals are now like new!

Vintage Raleigh

Glad you got a result!

eschlwc

^ yep. and thanks a lot to you for your post.