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What the what? New Bianchi designed specifically for L'Eroica...and declared legal?

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Old 08-04-15, 05:57 PM
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I like it, but it doesn't rustle my jimmies. That is reserved only for bikes that require a hunt and some frustration to locate, procure, and preserve. It's the behavior these C&V bikes require that make me love them more than the sum of their parts.
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There's a lot of mention about this bike being Campagnolo equipped, but in truth, I believe only the dérailleurs are Campy. Pretty much very thing else is made by Dia Compe. The 3-arm spider crank is Dia Compe ENE, as are the hubs. The shift levers are Dia Compe power ratchet levers, which work a lot like the old SunTour units. Center pull brakes are also Dia Compe.

The frame is a little nicer than the Tipo Corsa frame that Bianchi has offered for a couple of years. The Tipo Corsa is made in Asia, while the L'Eroica frame is supposed to be Italian made, has a nicer fork rake (the Tipo fork rake is a dog leg) and has some chromed accents.

I put put up some pictures and first impressions on The Retrogrouch Blog back in June after the bike was shown at L'Eroica Brittania. Here's a link if people missed it: The Retrogrouch: Bianchi L'Eroica Bike
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Actually, the Stelbel is not brazed or lugged. It's TIG welded. Stelbel was one of the first doing TIG welding on road bikes, then went out of production just as that process was becoming the norm. Now they're back.

i had something about this on The Retrogrouch back in June. Here's a link if anyone's interested.
The Retrogrouch: Rapha Re-Imaginings
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I personally would not buy a cheesy copy of a vintage looking bike but there are those looking for that Disney experience. Hats off to whoever can make a bike like that and make an honest buck.
I hope many more manufacture similar bikes and promote similar events!
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Originally Posted by big chainring
That really dilutes the spirit in which the L'Eroica events were conceived.
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No one is forcing anyone to ride it at L'Eroica, but I'd ride it in a heartbeat, though I'd prefer to build a Tipo Corsa frame instead.

At least Bianchi has not tossed in the towel. I give them credit for putting another chair on the fire.

They keep plugging away for the steel bikes. In 1997 and 1998, they brought back the Trofeos, to less than popular acclaim.
Didn't faze 'em, they just keep stepping back and launching that futbol down the field.

Plus, it's kind of a chick magnet.

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Originally Posted by embankmentlb
I personally would not buy a cheesy copy of a vintage looking bike....
So, you mean the Specialized?

Or the Fuji?
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I do & I didn't.
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I'm sure I'll get some friction from some of you, but it kind of clicks with me.
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Originally Posted by Bicycle1966
There's a lot of mention about this bike being Campagnolo equipped, but in truth, I believe only the dérailleurs are Campy. Pretty much very thing else is made by Dia Compe. The 3-arm spider crank is Dia Compe ENE, as are the hubs. The shift levers are Dia Compe power ratchet levers, which work a lot like the old SunTour units. Center pull brakes are also Dia Compe.

The frame is a little nicer than the Tipo Corsa frame that Bianchi has offered for a couple of years. The Tipo Corsa is made in Asia, while the L'Eroica frame is supposed to be Italian made, has a nicer fork rake (the Tipo fork rake is a dog leg) and has some chromed accents.

I put put up some pictures and first impressions on The Retrogrouch Blog back in June after the bike was shown at L'Eroica Brittania. Here's a link if people missed it: The Retrogrouch: Bianchi L'Eroica Bike
I hope it's brazed in Italy. I don't know how the Italians define made in... The EU is a bit looser than how I would define it.
Italian tubes, Italian paint and chrome... Italian made?
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For a play on the L'eroica inspector general, I'd like to see some nut try the Cinelli M71 pedals.

Early 70's made so no argument there.- check
Manic to ride. - check
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
So, you mean the Specialized?


Or the Fuji?
Or the Pinarello?
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Originally Posted by jeirvine
The retro-grouch in me is happy, though I wouldn't buy one in a million years, if I could buy this or this for less.
Do we have pricing information on this Bianchi L'Eroica? I didn't see it anywhere...

I just hope the "L'Eroica" decal on the down tube can be peeled off and isn't applied underneath a layer of clearcoat. That would be the first modification I would make for sure.
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Originally Posted by leegf
Do we have pricing information on this Bianchi L'Eroica? I didn't see it anywhere...
$2800 - ish.
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Saddle don't fit atmo. Also "signed by Campagnolo"? Not really a friend of facsimiles myself. Either real C&V or resto-mod for me. No pretending.
Funny they switched the period-correct 52/42 to 48/36.
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3k can build a couple nice vintage bikes. throw a classic color on a steel bike & a few retro looking goodies & this is all this is. I suppose some will be happy with just that.
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Despite the Dia Compe parts on the L'Eroica Bianchi, I think there is actually a remote possibility of Campy getting back into the not-ugly component market: "Campagnolo had been lurking on The Radavist and seen builds featured like my Euro Sport and Llewellyn and dropped me an email, asking if I could do a build to showcase a modified modern Athena 11s groupset."

The Campagnolo Project - FYXO

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This whole neo-retro thing is a trend I can get behind. Anything that increases interest and production of lugged steel bikes and shiny alloy components is right-on in my book.
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Originally Posted by iab
$2800 - ish.
Well, then, I don't like it so much, since a Super Corsa is right there.
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Originally Posted by iab
From their rules,



And this is not a new rule, it always been there.

Those 3-arm cranks are sweet. When did Campagnolo start making them? What are they called?
Possibly a Dia Compe ENE crank...

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Ok, I've been wondering. What will we call a retro vintage bike in another 20yrs? Vintage retro vintage? Will there be remakes of those, too? A retro vintage retro vintage bike??
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Not the just Bianchi - the Pashley Clubman is L'Eroica Legal:




For under $2000 not a bad modern interpretation of a C&V road bike.
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I find a $2800 price pretty objectionable for what you get, but if it weren't for that, it's pretty similar to any Seventies premium bike. What I want to know is...

Originally Posted by Bicycle1966
Pretty much very thing else is made by Dia Compe... as are the hubs.
Do you think they are they the "Grand Cru Touring" hubs sold by Velo Orange?

All the offerings sold at retail today seem so chunky and expensive, those included. It would be so nice to get something like the 600EX high flange hubs, something that looked NR-ish but took modern cassettes.
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So I noticed this new Bianchi has a 29t max cassette cog.

Gotta hand it to them - they got the gearing just right for the middle-aged disposable income types that would buy these bikes (and hardly ride them, except for eroica events).

Pushing a 39/23 combination up a steep hill is no fun, particularly if you have limited training opportunities and therefore a limited cycling base.
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Originally Posted by kunsunoke
So I noticed this new Bianchi has a 29t max cassette cog.

Gotta hand it to them - they got the gearing just right for the middle-aged disposable income types that would buy these bikes (and hardly ride them, except for eroica events).

Pushing a 39/23 combination up a steep hill is no fun, particularly if you have limited training opportunities and therefore a limited cycling base.
They could expand the marketing opportunity if they offered a factory tour/European vacation experience like BMW and Ferrari have. Fly over and pick up your bike at the factory, ride L'Eroica, drop the bike off to be packed and shipped home. I know a guy who did this for his BMW and said it was a great experience.
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Originally Posted by Darth Lefty
I find a $2800 price pretty objectionable for what you get,
I find $1.19 for a soft shell taco from Taco Bell pretty objectionable for what you get.

What's your point?
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Is that $2800 price confirmed? Anyhow, the Velo Orange hubs are probably very similar, and who knows, they may even be made by Dia Compe. But searching for Dia Compe hubs turned up what looks to me like the same exact hubs that are shown on the Bianchi.

Originally Posted by Darth Lefty
I find a $2800 price pretty objectionable for what you get, but if it weren't for that, it's pretty similar to any Seventies premium bike. What I want to know is...

Do you think they are they the "Grand Cru Touring" hubs sold by Velo Orange?

All the offerings sold at retail today seem so chunky and expensive, those included. It would be so nice to get something like the 600EX high flange hubs, something that looked NR-ish but took modern cassettes.
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