Taking opinions on what you think are some of the most "modern" "C&V" frames.
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Taking opinions on what you think are some of the most "modern" "C&V" frames.
1) I'm in the mood for a project and 2) my back up bike doesn't quite fit me right.
So, that got me thinking what might be the most modern vintage frame to build upon? Things that make a frame modern to me are replaceable dérailleur hangers, internal cable routing, non-traditional geo options (taller head tube), etc etc. Not an all inclusive list but you get the idea.
So, that got me thinking what might be the most modern vintage frame to build upon? Things that make a frame modern to me are replaceable dérailleur hangers, internal cable routing, non-traditional geo options (taller head tube), etc etc. Not an all inclusive list but you get the idea.
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1) I'm in the mood for a project and 2) my back up bike doesn't quite fit me right.
So, that got me thinking what might be the most modern vintage frame to build upon? Things that make a frame modern to me are replaceable dérailleur hangers, internal cable routing, non-traditional geo options (taller head tube), etc etc. Not an all inclusive list but you get the idea.
So, that got me thinking what might be the most modern vintage frame to build upon? Things that make a frame modern to me are replaceable dérailleur hangers, internal cable routing, non-traditional geo options (taller head tube), etc etc. Not an all inclusive list but you get the idea.
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Actually, internal cable routing was fairly common, even to an extent on mid '80s Trek steel frames (rear derailleur). I know frames such as the DeRosa Primato (and other Italians of this period) had internal top tube cable routing.
I think the Gios Compact had a replaceable derailleur hanger, but I could be wrong. Can't think of many (any?) others though.
I think the Gios Compact had a replaceable derailleur hanger, but I could be wrong. Can't think of many (any?) others though.
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Actually, internal cable routing was fairly common, even to an extent on mid '80s Trek steel frames (rear derailleur). I know frames such as the DeRosa Primato (and other Italians of this period) had internal top tube cable routing.
I think the Gios Compact had a replaceable derailleur hanger, but I could be wrong. Can't think of many (any?) others though.
I think the Gios Compact had a replaceable derailleur hanger, but I could be wrong. Can't think of many (any?) others though.
I'm more interested in geo than features. For example, the Cannondale frames are very tempting but I don't want the crit geometry. I'm was thinking maybe there were some earlier LeMond frames that had taller head tubes?
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Greg Lemond by Roland Della Santa
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i like a bike without internal routing. i think the rd cable running above the chainstay helps guard against a lot of chain slap. there are other benefits as well.
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Not to mention easier to work on. Again, geo is more important. I like taller head tubes or shorter top tubes on bigger frames.
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De Rosa Primato is the gold standard. It's tough to beat EL OS until you go to the modern exotic steels. For modern, my favorite steel is Columbus Ultra Foco.
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Try a Serotta CSI if you would like an American made frameset.
They are an absolute hoot to ride.
It won't be so tough to find one either.
Or you could try a Della Santa like my son's.
An absolute rocketship.
[IMG]DSCN6669 by gomango1849, on Flickr[/IMG]
Neither of these framesets are all that expensive and they are hot rods.
They are an absolute hoot to ride.
It won't be so tough to find one either.
Or you could try a Della Santa like my son's.
An absolute rocketship.
[IMG]DSCN6669 by gomango1849, on Flickr[/IMG]
Neither of these framesets are all that expensive and they are hot rods.
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Try a Serotta CSI if you would like an American made frameset.
They are an absolute hoot to ride.
It won't be so tough to find one either.
Or you could try a Della Santa like my son's.
An absolute rocketship.
[IMG]DSCN6669 by gomango1849, on Flickr[/IMG]
Neither of these framesets are all that expensive and they are hot rods.
They are an absolute hoot to ride.
It won't be so tough to find one either.
Or you could try a Della Santa like my son's.
An absolute rocketship.
[IMG]DSCN6669 by gomango1849, on Flickr[/IMG]
Neither of these framesets are all that expensive and they are hot rods.
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Maybe something like this? Bob Jackson World Tour (not mine)
This is really a modern bike with a C&V vibe. I may be looking at the request differently than shoota meant it.
This is really a modern bike with a C&V vibe. I may be looking at the request differently than shoota meant it.
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To get to modern times you need to move to something like 853. The trek lemonds used at least some 853 tubing in their builds (main triangle). KHS built a nice 853 frame that you can likely get for near nothing if found. A little farther back, there were all sorts of cool creations made from Columbus Genius, but I'd stick those under smaller riders.
Were it me, I'd skip the interim step and go with something like a modern Torelli made from Columbus spirit. Tommasini would also fit the bill, but would cost closer to a custom build. The modern Ciocc from Nashbar looks like a nice frame also. These all seem in the $1K-$2K range.
I doubt too many of the middle pack priced builders would have non-traditional/custom geometry as an option though. There are some builders around that will create a value priced frame in any configuration you wish, the options adding to the bill. I could see getting what you want for around $2K with a little shopping.
Were it me, I'd skip the interim step and go with something like a modern Torelli made from Columbus spirit. Tommasini would also fit the bill, but would cost closer to a custom build. The modern Ciocc from Nashbar looks like a nice frame also. These all seem in the $1K-$2K range.
I doubt too many of the middle pack priced builders would have non-traditional/custom geometry as an option though. There are some builders around that will create a value priced frame in any configuration you wish, the options adding to the bill. I could see getting what you want for around $2K with a little shopping.
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Maybe a little less.
He'd likely whip up a heck of a frameset out of Spirit.
I'd also check into a new Cannondale CAAD 10. Rode one two days ago and that's a lot of performance for the money.
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Oddjob is on the right track (not sure how I missed those bikes on CL). I'm certainly not buying a new $1-2k new bike. Already did that. I'm thinking more along the lines of an older Cannondale. I have 90% the components I need to build it.
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I'm not a big fan of old aluminum.
Too stiff for my tastes. Bone jarring is the term that comes to mind.
Should be able to find something cheap though, if that winds your binder.
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Yeah I've had one before, pretty darn stiff. I'm still looking around though.
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Not truly vintage (yet) but destined to be classic...2004 Cervelo SuperProdigy: Columbus UltrFoco (Thermachrom) tubing with oversized downtube and ovalized top tube. Also consider its predecessor, 2001-2002 Prodigy.
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Might be tricky to find but perhaps something like a Co-motion built Hampsten.
But these days, the in house produced Hampsten look quite inviting.
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But the other day.... when storms seemed certain (and they were)... I took my #2 bike (AKA my rain bike). It's a 5 year old entry level bike worth about $300. I wouldn't take an old classic out in bad weather... and I'd prefer not to take my daily rider out in bad weather ether.