What are you working on? Fall 2015 In-progress Build Thread
11-09-15, 06:45 AM
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11-09-15, 07:23 AM
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Here is what I was working on this weekend: A 1986 Peugeot Triathlon in near-original condition.
11-09-15, 07:36 AM
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I finished the Univega over the weekend, going from this:
to this:
Next project is this:
That fork ended up on the Univega, but I'm thinking of building it with a long-rake Electra Ticino fork that I've had in the bin for a while. No idea what manufacturer that frame is, but it seems reasonably well made and lightweight. Takes a 27.0mm seat post. A good blank canvas.
to this:
Next project is this:
That fork ended up on the Univega, but I'm thinking of building it with a long-rake Electra Ticino fork that I've had in the bin for a while. No idea what manufacturer that frame is, but it seems reasonably well made and lightweight. Takes a 27.0mm seat post. A good blank canvas.
11-09-15, 07:51 AM
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Semi finished my project. Since I sold off my collection this is now my only bike. It is a 1981 Miyata 912 frame that I was ready to throw away because it was so trashed looking but decided to use as a practice frame for painting. Originally purchased as a donor bike. Rattle can Paint came out pretty good for my first try. A bit of a hasty build to get some riding in before the snow starts falling. Will probably add decals over the winter, but I am not sure? After a few rides I will re wrap the bars. This is my first attempt at using Bar Ends. I want to get it all dialed in first.
11-09-15, 08:25 AM
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I'm replacing my Merckx with the BMC.
The Merckx frameset has been fun, but I like the extra headtube, three water bottle capacity and most importantly, the generous tire clearance.
I'll be riding it with Bruce Gordon Rock 'n Roads. Great all around tire, but especially suited to the fire roads and what not up at our cabin near the BWCA.
Not to mention I can run a small Nitto rack on the front. That means my Swift Ozette can be used on multiple bikes.
I'll likely just switch over the Campy drivetrain from my Merckx, but a 6800 drivetrain would be a great upgrade and would give me additional gearing options.
Maybe we'll do a thread here, but it would be a bit off topic.
Should be fun at any rate!!!!
Sort of the vibe I'm going for below, but with drop bars:
The Merckx frameset has been fun, but I like the extra headtube, three water bottle capacity and most importantly, the generous tire clearance.
I'll be riding it with Bruce Gordon Rock 'n Roads. Great all around tire, but especially suited to the fire roads and what not up at our cabin near the BWCA.
Not to mention I can run a small Nitto rack on the front. That means my Swift Ozette can be used on multiple bikes.
I'll likely just switch over the Campy drivetrain from my Merckx, but a 6800 drivetrain would be a great upgrade and would give me additional gearing options.
Maybe we'll do a thread here, but it would be a bit off topic.
Should be fun at any rate!!!!
Sort of the vibe I'm going for below, but with drop bars:
You are going to like dealing with Mike Varney, just a super nice guy and wealth of knowledge. His bikes are a fantastic bargain too. I find myself riding less and less on the road, so my cross gets 75% of the riding time. I can ride this bike all day and still feel great.
He corrected the one flaw I had with his design and added a taller head tube. As you can see, I was probably one of the ones he is referring to complaining about using so many spacers.
I like that Stumpjumper pink, I can't wait to see what you do with it.
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11-09-15, 12:29 PM
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maybe not quite C&V in the whole perspective of things, but it absolutely is in relation to its niche.
1st generation Large Marge 65mm fat bike rims. Formerly anodized black. Will be a part oe a early 90's themed fat bike build with Klein inspired paint. 1991 Surly Pugsly if you will.
1st generation Large Marge 65mm fat bike rims. Formerly anodized black. Will be a part oe a early 90's themed fat bike build with Klein inspired paint. 1991 Surly Pugsly if you will.
11-09-15, 12:32 PM
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Here's my current project.
Aprox. 1974 Cinelli that has been sitting in a damp basement for a couple decades. Fortunately there was plenty of grease on the seat post and stem! Speaking of the seat post, if anyone has spares of the two missing Campy saddle rail supports please send me a PM.
The bike was given to me by a friend in your neck of the woods @gaucho777
The repaint, bottle bosses, pump peg, through-tube cable routing, and Dura Ace drivetrain all made a certain amount of sense in the eighties, but not so much sense now. We'll see how close I can get it to its original configuration.
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Aprox. 1974 Cinelli that has been sitting in a damp basement for a couple decades. Fortunately there was plenty of grease on the seat post and stem! Speaking of the seat post, if anyone has spares of the two missing Campy saddle rail supports please send me a PM.
The bike was given to me by a friend in your neck of the woods @gaucho777
The repaint, bottle bosses, pump peg, through-tube cable routing, and Dura Ace drivetrain all made a certain amount of sense in the eighties, but not so much sense now. We'll see how close I can get it to its original configuration.
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11-09-15, 12:38 PM
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The bike was given to me by a friend in your neck of the woods @gaucho777
11-09-15, 12:48 PM
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Decals went on the Gitane Olympic yesterday - using 1978 versions
Mocked it up a little more with colors to get an idea where I'm going.
Mocked it up a little more with colors to get an idea where I'm going.
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11-09-15, 12:58 PM
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Maybe I've found my niche: I have a lot of friends and acquaintances who have been riding for decades, some of whom still have their old bikes sitting around in various shameful states of disrepair. I think some of them feel guilty about the condition of the bike that was once their pride and joy. The fellow who gave me the Cinelli saw what I did to the last bike that was given to me and decided that his old bike deserved a similar fate.
Here's my last free bike.
It went from this
to this
If my experience with the Motobecane is any indication I would go broke restoring these "free" bikes if it weren't for the fact that I do my own paint and don't have to pay myself anything for my time.
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11-09-15, 01:04 PM
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Currently have two frames at Cyclart right now.
My gf's pretty new Lemond, which is going to be built up with all Dura Ace 7800, just like mine. (Her choice, not mine. Honest!)
And my Centurion Ironman. Probably going to be a few weeks on that one, as they're giving it the full Cat-1 treatment, complete with Velocals.
Looking forward to having a non-white bike in the bedroom for a change.
My gf's pretty new Lemond, which is going to be built up with all Dura Ace 7800, just like mine. (Her choice, not mine. Honest!)
And my Centurion Ironman. Probably going to be a few weeks on that one, as they're giving it the full Cat-1 treatment, complete with Velocals.
Looking forward to having a non-white bike in the bedroom for a change.
11-09-15, 01:17 PM
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Nope, it doesn't sux at all. But it sure didn't go together easy either. Cantis moved and still did not work, back to the
frame shop and had them removed, the long reach works very well. Everything else was pretty easy. I still don't know what the lower/mid rear braze ons are for.
You can see them in the last pic, along with the Dyno wirring...
11-09-15, 02:57 PM
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11-09-15, 03:13 PM
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I've been working through this project for a year, '72 Le Champion.
The more I get done the more I see has to get done. The OO painted it badly. After seeing some of the mechanical stuff I can understand why he was willing to abuse it. Pedal threads in the crank arms were bunged but accepted the French pedals without objecting too much. Both wheels were strung too loosely and needed dishing correctly. One front bearing cone is pitted, needs replacing. One brake lever was cracked, now replaced. The cables in the bar-ends were stuck in the levers. Other than that it is all original. Oh, one more thing, the chain. Not good.
It broke on a spin around the block. Now it wears a different Sedis.
A few spins around the block revealed some character. It accelerates quickly. The front end especially feels much like the Champion Team. I believe it would make a great speed-bike. On the other hand, bar-ends are new to me and not in my comfort zone. The concept of a triple seems great but 52-40-38 isn't what I would have chosen (if I had a choice at all). The RD's guide pulley sits very close to the large sprocket (only a 24T) and there isn't much clearance between the cage and the spokes. The triple was spec'ed on the original shop invoice, probably the bar-ends too. The whole bike feels like an effort to convert a fast road bike into a ride-anywhere sport bike with what might have seemed like the hot-ticket items at the time. We have 40 more years of experience and component development so maybe that isn't a fair assessment. A complete re-evaluation of the OEM stuff with replacement as necessary might have resulted in a better bike than adhering to the original concepts.
I am not sure what I will do with this.
The more I get done the more I see has to get done. The OO painted it badly. After seeing some of the mechanical stuff I can understand why he was willing to abuse it. Pedal threads in the crank arms were bunged but accepted the French pedals without objecting too much. Both wheels were strung too loosely and needed dishing correctly. One front bearing cone is pitted, needs replacing. One brake lever was cracked, now replaced. The cables in the bar-ends were stuck in the levers. Other than that it is all original. Oh, one more thing, the chain. Not good.
It broke on a spin around the block. Now it wears a different Sedis.
A few spins around the block revealed some character. It accelerates quickly. The front end especially feels much like the Champion Team. I believe it would make a great speed-bike. On the other hand, bar-ends are new to me and not in my comfort zone. The concept of a triple seems great but 52-40-38 isn't what I would have chosen (if I had a choice at all). The RD's guide pulley sits very close to the large sprocket (only a 24T) and there isn't much clearance between the cage and the spokes. The triple was spec'ed on the original shop invoice, probably the bar-ends too. The whole bike feels like an effort to convert a fast road bike into a ride-anywhere sport bike with what might have seemed like the hot-ticket items at the time. We have 40 more years of experience and component development so maybe that isn't a fair assessment. A complete re-evaluation of the OEM stuff with replacement as necessary might have resulted in a better bike than adhering to the original concepts.
I am not sure what I will do with this.
have some chain purchased I that time period in bulk. Let me know if you are interested in a length for use.
I rode mine for a time before it was taken out of service by a car. I think we actually exchanged some emails about your bike! I could not get use to the Le Champion's ride. My previous ride was a UO-8 that I rode the bearings off and sold in 1973 to buy the Moto. I thought it would be an upgrade because of the Campy parts. It wasn't, I never got use to the NR and there was something about the ride that wasn't quite right. The brakes squealed a lot too! I like the paint and the bling but there was something that gnawed at me about its ride. I replaced the rear hub with a Record and put a Ultra 6 cluster and chain on it in about 1980.
The replacement is the Colnago. No disappointments with that set up!
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11-09-15, 03:16 PM
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some very intriguing projects and beautiful bunch of steels here.
me: currently working on realizing i had had a hobby of C&V bikes... #forceawakens
me: currently working on realizing i had had a hobby of C&V bikes... #forceawakens
11-09-15, 03:18 PM
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11-09-15, 03:20 PM
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Finished a pair of Raleighs for a good friend. One to go for him: an Ironman, of course.
Toying with a "possible," trending towards "likely" work on one of my bikes.
Toying with a "possible," trending towards "likely" work on one of my bikes.
11-09-15, 03:46 PM
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11-09-15, 04:38 PM
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I took an old school 1983 Huffy Pro Performer BMX and in 2 days it went from this...............
To this.................
To this.................
11-09-15, 04:50 PM
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Disclaimer here, at one time my endorsement for BMC was on his webpage. I hope it is still there because I still love the design of his 3rd generation cross bike.
You are going to like dealing with Mike Varney, just a super nice guy and wealth of knowledge. His bikes are a fantastic bargain too. I find myself riding less and less on the road, so my cross gets 75% of the riding time. I can ride this bike all day and still feel great.
He corrected the one flaw I had with his design and added a taller head tube. As you can see, I was probably one of the ones he is referring to complaining about using so many spacers.
I like that Stumpjumper pink, I can't wait to see what you do with it.
You are going to like dealing with Mike Varney, just a super nice guy and wealth of knowledge. His bikes are a fantastic bargain too. I find myself riding less and less on the road, so my cross gets 75% of the riding time. I can ride this bike all day and still feel great.
He corrected the one flaw I had with his design and added a taller head tube. As you can see, I was probably one of the ones he is referring to complaining about using so many spacers.
I like that Stumpjumper pink, I can't wait to see what you do with it.
That's such a beauty and a great all roader.
I don't think mine will be radically different than yours. I've decided to just used the Campy Centaur groupset off my Merckx, but stick with the BG Rock 'n Roads.
Otherwise I will have a Nitto rack on the front with a Swift bag.
Definitely will have a dyno on the front wheel by the end of the summer, but not initially.
I'll definitely do some pics of the frameset when it arrives.
Should be bright, bright bright.
11-09-15, 04:51 PM
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Sure cleaned up nice, well done! Fair assumption that it is straight gauge steel and weighs in around 30lbs?
11-09-15, 07:15 PM
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I've been working through this project for a year, '72 Le Champion.
The more I get done the more I see has to get done. The OO painted it badly. After seeing some of the mechanical stuff I can understand why he was willing to abuse it. Pedal threads in the crank arms were bunged but accepted the French pedals without objecting too much. Both wheels were strung too loosely and needed dishing correctly. One front bearing cone is pitted, needs replacing. One brake lever was cracked, now replaced. The cables in the bar-ends were stuck in the levers. Other than that it is all original. Oh, one more thing, the chain. Not good.
It broke on a spin around the block. Now it wears a different Sedis.
A few spins around the block revealed some character. It accelerates quickly. The front end especially feels much like the Champion Team. I believe it would make a great speed-bike. On the other hand, bar-ends are new to me and not in my comfort zone. The concept of a triple seems great but 52-40-38 isn't what I would have chosen (if I had a choice at all). The RD's guide pulley sits very close to the large sprocket (only a 24T) and there isn't much clearance between the cage and the spokes. The triple was spec'ed on the original shop invoice, probably the bar-ends too. The whole bike feels like an effort to convert a fast road bike into a ride-anywhere sport bike with what might have seemed like the hot-ticket items at the time. We have 40 more years of experience and component development so maybe that isn't a fair assessment. A complete re-evaluation of the OEM stuff with replacement as necessary might have resulted in a better bike than adhering to the original concepts.
I am not sure what I will do with this.
The more I get done the more I see has to get done. The OO painted it badly. After seeing some of the mechanical stuff I can understand why he was willing to abuse it. Pedal threads in the crank arms were bunged but accepted the French pedals without objecting too much. Both wheels were strung too loosely and needed dishing correctly. One front bearing cone is pitted, needs replacing. One brake lever was cracked, now replaced. The cables in the bar-ends were stuck in the levers. Other than that it is all original. Oh, one more thing, the chain. Not good.
It broke on a spin around the block. Now it wears a different Sedis.
A few spins around the block revealed some character. It accelerates quickly. The front end especially feels much like the Champion Team. I believe it would make a great speed-bike. On the other hand, bar-ends are new to me and not in my comfort zone. The concept of a triple seems great but 52-40-38 isn't what I would have chosen (if I had a choice at all). The RD's guide pulley sits very close to the large sprocket (only a 24T) and there isn't much clearance between the cage and the spokes. The triple was spec'ed on the original shop invoice, probably the bar-ends too. The whole bike feels like an effort to convert a fast road bike into a ride-anywhere sport bike with what might have seemed like the hot-ticket items at the time. We have 40 more years of experience and component development so maybe that isn't a fair assessment. A complete re-evaluation of the OEM stuff with replacement as necessary might have resulted in a better bike than adhering to the original concepts.
I am not sure what I will do with this.
This model year is interesting and I think unique. Classy looker that one can build to various riding discipline. That in itself is what makes it so neat and different from others. Traditional French fit, stretched TT but strangely a tight head angle and then they used a beautiful rake fork, all pronounced in the chrome area. Somehow it works, yet French complicated in the approach of design. My goal was building it into a comfortable all-rounder, gravel suited and light off-road trail usage. I also wanted to retain near period parts.
To better catch my drift, this baby is now for off-road and swift gravel. It's a pretty quick transition L-R when steering away from unexpected holes and rut's but confident in fast loose descents. My only beef is in the overlap... read further.
Bottom bracket- Some oddity learning it had a Swiss threaded bb shell but I lucked out it has a Phil sealed cartridge unit. Why and who knows?? Regardless, having the sealed bearings is a plus for my application.
Brakes- Other features is having clamp top tube cable guides. Was able to use in a major change in the brake configuration (concept taken from early Alex Singer cycles). It came with the MAFAC Criterium centerpulls which I modified for feather control leverage. Replaced the stock MAFAC brake blocks to finned Scott-Matthauser's and now have a firm, no mush with terrific modulation. Lots of trial and error. The MAFAC with Kool-stop inserts just didn't cut it and way too mushy. Right now the S-M pads are dialed in, comfortably can use all the braking power with just a single finger. Love it.
Shift group- I kept the original Nuovo Record, replaced jockeys. Of minor issue, the front seems to collect fine gravel dust in the pivots and hang. So when the shift lever is moved, sometimes a little cable slack and not getting the full action occasionally happens. Yet to try it, but I might mod the spring for a stronger tension and balance accordingly friction at the lever. Though, most of this is my fault and where riding it.
Worse, while at one of the C&V gatherings in WIS, the darned rear overshot on a downshift, mid climb and had a major chainsuck. (Additionally, at that time I wasn't happy with the original MAFAC pads.) So bad I couldn't get the chain out from between the Tipo hub and large cog. Also had no dork disc protection. Anyways, was able to problem solve and enough will to get back by temporarily converting to fixed gear. Now have a modified Sachs-Huret small dork plate and surprisingly was able to use a different 5 speed cog, exceeding chain wrap spec for the circa 1972 Campy NR rear. It now utilizes all ten gear selection, 13-28 cog and 42-52 chainrings.
Riding on 700c Mavic clinchers, Vittoria cross tires, 32mm width primarily for grass and hardpack dirt. Cushy, quiet and good enough for tarmac. Wanted to fit full mudguards but wasn't even close as I have an issue with toe-overlap. I've gotten used to it in the technical trails and for what little worth, opted to shorty Blumel's splash guards.
Another area I wanted to change is in the bars and focused on wrist angle, yet keep a deep drop but also while on top have an easy grip while modulating the brakes. I decided on modifying a very light bar that also has more flex. Flared the ends out which relieves my wrist, especially absorbing while in the rough terrain. Couldn't be more pleased how they came out. Also using a thick cork wrap for this project. Though I might try a different wrap and slight shorter 3ttt Record stem.
I'll skip the little detail changes but the more miles I get on it, the more its appreciated. I think if I had to chose a single bike as all around C&V machine, this would be a top contender. More amazing is still finding them at bottom level prices.
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