1971 Bottecchia Giro de Italia
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I realize the GDI and Pro are the top of the line for Bottecchia of the period we are discussing, but I am disappointed in the quality compared to Colnago, which isn't the best, not to mention later model De Rosa's and Pinarello's which are significantly better.
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If I can help, let me know, as I'm local..... great bike.
Bottecchia, by many acounts, is a true hero.
There remains a belief that he was murdered by the Fascists in Italy, possibly for doing the same thing as Bartali.
For that reason alone, I look at Bottecchia's in a different light.
Another reason is that one of my hero's, crank_addict, has one.
He da man.
Bottecchia, by many acounts, is a true hero.
There remains a belief that he was murdered by the Fascists in Italy, possibly for doing the same thing as Bartali.
For that reason alone, I look at Bottecchia's in a different light.
Another reason is that one of my hero's, crank_addict, has one.
He da man.
BTW: SJX426 has the same (in blue) like bibliobob's wife Elle has. Her bike looks really neat and believe all original. She can put the hammer down and ride that thing fast!
Hope she doesn't mind but here it is >
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I also have to agree with @crank_addict, that is a beautiful bike @FNS32! The outlining of the lugs is something I have never seen before, and that looks to be a cottered crank? Very interesting indeed![/COLOR]
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The Bottecchia does not have a full polilshed chrome plated surface. Only the lugs, fork and stays socks are polished chrome. The rest is, indeed, chrome plated, but it is not shiny, nor does it look very good, at all, as can be seen on this Model Special...
I don't have a really good picture of the Giro/Pro but there is a small spot, just near the top of the left shifter, that shows the unpolished chrome...
I don't have a really good picture of the Giro/Pro but there is a small spot, just near the top of the left shifter, that shows the unpolished chrome...
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The Bottecchia does not have a full polilshed chrome plated surface. Only the lugs, fork and stays socks are polished chrome.
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As for the saddle, I use Kiwi shoe polish on all my leather saddles, rub in, let dry and buff to a shine. Haven't had a stain yet even on light coloured pants. Try it and see!
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I edited my post but it wouldn't execute. Here is the rest.
My 72 Motobecane Le Champion was representative of good quality of the period for a production model.
Those seat stay caps and the lug points are down-right ugly! But hey, it is what it is and represents what it is.
My seat cluster~[IMG]P1020442 ], on Flickr[/IMG
My 72 Motobecane Le Champion was representative of good quality of the period for a production model.
Those seat stay caps and the lug points are down-right ugly! But hey, it is what it is and represents what it is.
My seat cluster~[IMG]P1020442 ], on Flickr[/IMG
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Do you happen to know then which models/years were fully chromed frames? Trying to pin the year/model of mine to a point of certainty. Thanks in advance.
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Do you happen to know then which models/years were fully chromed frames? Trying to pin the year/model of mine to a point of certainty. Thanks in advance.
If you can, share a close up of painted areas that might show this feature, it might make it easier to make a more accurate call.
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Just a quick progress update. Spent a few hours today doing some drillium work on the Nervar Star chain rings. Pretty happy with it for a first attempt, and I know that the next chainrings I do will come out even nicer with the proper tools. I think the countersink bit I used was too big and possibly a little dull which caused some skipping in the holes, and my pilot bit drifted a few times. What size and brand of countersink bit are others using for this kind of work?
Also toying with the idea of some pantographing on the crank arms. Thinking blue, red, black, yellow, green (to match the top of the bottecchia decals below), red, red, white, green, green (to match the bottom of the decals) or all black on the five arms on the star and possibly black in the recess in the center of the arms. Thoughts? Inspirational pictures? Thanks!
Also toying with the idea of some pantographing on the crank arms. Thinking blue, red, black, yellow, green (to match the top of the bottecchia decals below), red, red, white, green, green (to match the bottom of the decals) or all black on the five arms on the star and possibly black in the recess in the center of the arms. Thoughts? Inspirational pictures? Thanks!
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Just a quick progress update. Spent a few hours today doing some drillium work on the Nervar Star chain rings. Pretty happy with it for a first attempt, and I know that the next chainrings I do will come out even nicer with the proper tools. I think the countersink bit I used was too big and possibly a little dull which caused some skipping in the holes, and my pilot bit drifted a few times. What size and brand of countersink bit are others using for this kind of work?
Also toying with the idea of some pantographing on the crank arms. Thinking blue, red, black, yellow, green (to match the top of the bottecchia decals below), red, red, white, green, green (to match the bottom of the decals) or all black on the five arms on the star and possibly black in the recess in the center of the arms. Thoughts? Inspirational pictures? Thanks!
Also toying with the idea of some pantographing on the crank arms. Thinking blue, red, black, yellow, green (to match the top of the bottecchia decals below), red, red, white, green, green (to match the bottom of the decals) or all black on the five arms on the star and possibly black in the recess in the center of the arms. Thoughts? Inspirational pictures? Thanks!
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Very interesting, is it going to be a coop kind of thing where you can rent time to use the equipment, or a shop where he does the labor?
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had this same model come through my workshop in the same colour, also an early seventies example.
its finish was fascinating.
it had experienced so much uv exposure that at first glance it appeared to be a completely silver bicycle. one was of course looking at the undercoat for the flambouyant finish. the only remaining red was on the underside of tubes and beneath the clamps.
was yours at all similar in its "as found" state?
thanks again for posting.
here is the factory catalogue page showing the Professional & Giro D'Italia models for 1973 -
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Thanks for the input cbutler, pretty much along the lines of what I was thinking also. I actually have tubular wheelset laced to Nuovo Tipo hubs that came off my well upgraded, but poorly stored Grand Jubilee that I may switch over to this, and throw these clinchers on the GJ for general tooling around. I'm pretty smitten with this frame so far, and with some of these upgrades, it will likely become my fair weather ride.
I haven't used cloth tape yet, and like the leather that is installed currently, are you recommending for comfort/utility or period correctness?
I'll keep my eye on the C&V sales forum to see if any campy seatposts, pedals and/or dt shifters show up at a reasonable price (for those reading with any in you possession, PMs welcome!)
I haven't used cloth tape yet, and like the leather that is installed currently, are you recommending for comfort/utility or period correctness?
I'll keep my eye on the C&V sales forum to see if any campy seatposts, pedals and/or dt shifters show up at a reasonable price (for those reading with any in you possession, PMs welcome!)
I prefer cloth tape over padded tape for better grip and appearance. On longer rides, I wear gloves for padding, wiping my tires when riding and protecting my hands while crashing. Thick tape just looks out of place to me. I thought you had electrical tape on the bars, or at best, glossy padded tape. Your existing leather tape with new matching saddle would be awesome. Alternatively, your existing Unicanitor would come back to life with some sort of bottled suede treatment. If the saddle is smooth leather, shoe polish works wonders.
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and very fine looking it is too!
had this same model come through my workshop in the same colour, also an early seventies example.
its finish was fascinating.
it had experienced so much uv exposure that at first glance it appeared to be a completely silver bicycle. one was of course looking at the undercoat for the flambouyant finish. the only remaining red was on the underside of tubes and beneath the clamps.
was yours at all similar in its "as found" state?
thanks again for posting.
here is the factory catalogue page showing the Professional & Giro D'Italia models for 1973 -
had this same model come through my workshop in the same colour, also an early seventies example.
its finish was fascinating.
it had experienced so much uv exposure that at first glance it appeared to be a completely silver bicycle. one was of course looking at the undercoat for the flambouyant finish. the only remaining red was on the underside of tubes and beneath the clamps.
was yours at all similar in its "as found" state?
thanks again for posting.
here is the factory catalogue page showing the Professional & Giro D'Italia models for 1973 -
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thanks very much for the response FNS32
perhpas a previous owner wished to fit extension brake levers, hence the change to the cherry(?) set. funny to see that vestige of the atalanta gomma boot for the pietra adjusting barrel hanging about.
i like that you selected a factory colour for the respray.
perhpas a previous owner wished to fit extension brake levers, hence the change to the cherry(?) set. funny to see that vestige of the atalanta gomma boot for the pietra adjusting barrel hanging about.
i like that you selected a factory colour for the respray.
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Here are a few shots of my fork blade/dropout joint. The blades were blunt cut (not flattened) and slotted for the Campy dropouts, then filled with brazing material to form a concave surface. It was difficult to show it clearly in the pictures. Also attached a picture of a Bianchi for comparison.
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Here are a few shots of my fork blade/dropout joint. The blades were blunt cut (not flattened) and slotted for the Campy dropouts, then filled with brazing material to form a concave surface. It was difficult to show it clearly in the pictures. Also attached a picture of a Bianchi for comparison.
How do the rear DOs look?
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The rears look like SJX426's photo in post #21 - crimped flat enough to fit over the flat mating part of the Campy dropouts.
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