Recommendations for a quality but not outrageously expensive workstand?
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My Nashbar stand broke on the second day I used it.
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I've been looking myself, for a somewhat reasonably priced one, and best I could come up with that didn't have terrible reviews were the Park PCS9 and 10. But it still put me off how much these things go for, and for what? Some tubing and a clamp? Its not Columbus or Reynolds tubing, and a clamp isn't exactly a high tech device. If found used for half the cost of new or less, then perhaps. But I just can't bring myself to spend near $200 for tubing and a clamp. So I've been thinking the last couple weeks and think I have come up with a good DIY design. Should be much more sturdy than most, feature a quick release clamp, and I think I have all the parts I need already on hand so cost would be just about zero. We'll see how it turns out. Appearance and ease of use is important to me too, I'm not just going to duct-tape something together and have to fiddle with it constantly to use it.
but for the DIY here are some ideas.
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I've been looking myself, for a somewhat reasonably priced one, and best I could come up with that didn't have terrible reviews were the Park PCS9 and 10. But it still put me off how much these things go for, and for what? Some tubing and a clamp? Its not Columbus or Reynolds tubing, and a clamp isn't exactly a high tech device.
I'd be interested in seeing what you come up with.
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And a fine example of the 'ol bar end shifter double cross!
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I've got a Feedback Sports as well. It works great. But I think whatever brand you have you need something rigged up or some old seatposts to use so you don't have to clamp to the frame. I don't know if what is used in this picture came with the stand, but it looks to be the most valuable piece in my opinion. If it can be bought separately, I need to get one!
Very handy, and work great. Hard to find, not expensive, usually under $100.
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I know, apples and oranges here but just compare the materials since both of these cost about the same. 4,000 lb rated engine stand to the left. Made mostly out of thick heavy duty 1/4" and 3/16" steel tubing. Also has 6 super heavy duty casters, and a hydraulic cylinder. Weighs well over 100 lbs. The bike stand can lift 80 lbs and features extremely thin tubing, a clamp, and a couple of joints that allow it to slide and rotate. Total weight closer to 20 lbs. I fail to see how the park stand is worth more than about $50. Oh... mark-up. yeah I think the profit margin is several times greater on the Park Tool.
One reason I thought of the engine hoist / shop crane is because I already have one in my garage. My thought is to actually us it since I have it laying around already... just make a bike clamp attachment that slides into the end where the short bit of chain and clevis grab hook usually goes. The steel tubing there is 2" I.D. and I happen to have some 2" O.D. tubing laying around from another project that slides into it nicely. And replacing the bolt with a quick hitch pin will allow to swap between engine hoist and bike stand back and forth in just seconds (well even with the regular bolt it would still be only seconds, but maybe 30 versus 5 seconds).
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Before I got the Feedback Sports stand I DIYed a portable stand made entirely out of PCV pipe. It was modular and I could configure it in a couple of ways. It took about 5 minutes to put up or take down. I think I spent around 20 bucks on materials. I was so proud of myself. It was flimsy, but would do what I needed. I always had to stay close because I was afraid it would fall down. It never did. I used it for a year or two, then I decided I wanted a wheel truing stand. I couldn't decide on a good DIY one so I bought myself a Christmas present. I bought the Feedback Sports one and the repair stand with it. It is night and day between the Feedback and my DIY that I thought was OK. I did make a DIY dishing tool, but I'm about ready to get one that is not DIY. Where a good stand makes the difference is when you are replacing bb or headset bearings. Same for adjusting derailleur cables.
Money is always going in and out the door as people work on their bikes. Some of that money is not chump change either. Some of those bikes aren't $50 flippers either. Investing some of that money in quality tools is a good investment. Better in the long run than just getting by with something you put together yourself. If you have ever tried to get a tire off and on with a cheap set of tire tools you know what I'm talking about. You can get it done, but they are not that dependable. That is just my opinion.
Money is always going in and out the door as people work on their bikes. Some of that money is not chump change either. Some of those bikes aren't $50 flippers either. Investing some of that money in quality tools is a good investment. Better in the long run than just getting by with something you put together yourself. If you have ever tried to get a tire off and on with a cheap set of tire tools you know what I'm talking about. You can get it done, but they are not that dependable. That is just my opinion.
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I was given a Spin Doctor stand that looks a lot like this one. I don't recommend it if you do serous wrenching. It is not stable enough and will tip over of the weight is wrong.
The worst part about mine is the tightening arm for rotation. It stripped. I was able to add some washers to ensure the stripped threads don't engage but I still don't like it. I have to hold the stand to turn it due to the resistance. It kind of sticks too.
I am not sure what my next stand will be. Since I have a work bench, I might get one that attaches to it, but I like the portability as well. There isn't much room for mounting many more tools on the edge of the bench either, vices, grinders, reloading presses, etc!
My last project was to remove a stuck seat post out of a steel frame. I mounted the frame on the stand in the drive way to keep the fumes from being contained in the garage. I forgot about he heat freshly mixed Lye creates and melted the rubber clamp protectors! They really fit well on a tube now! Since the tubing is AL, I had to wash them down while the Lye was bubbling out of the frame! It is now permanently stained. New Patina! I am looking for a failure so I can justifiably trash it!
The worst part about mine is the tightening arm for rotation. It stripped. I was able to add some washers to ensure the stripped threads don't engage but I still don't like it. I have to hold the stand to turn it due to the resistance. It kind of sticks too.
I am not sure what my next stand will be. Since I have a work bench, I might get one that attaches to it, but I like the portability as well. There isn't much room for mounting many more tools on the edge of the bench either, vices, grinders, reloading presses, etc!
My last project was to remove a stuck seat post out of a steel frame. I mounted the frame on the stand in the drive way to keep the fumes from being contained in the garage. I forgot about he heat freshly mixed Lye creates and melted the rubber clamp protectors! They really fit well on a tube now! Since the tubing is AL, I had to wash them down while the Lye was bubbling out of the frame! It is now permanently stained. New Patina! I am looking for a failure so I can justifiably trash it!
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FWIW, I built this a long time ago from used pipe and fittings. It gets used more than the Park stand, for cleaning and quick maintenance. No clamp, just throw the bike on the hanger(there's foam pipe insulation on the cradles now). Not so shiny anymore though.
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Any park stand with the quick release flip lever style clamp. Completely worth it. I have used shop style park's, own a pcs-1, and own a pcs-10. The pcs-10 is a truly great stand.
Also the comparison to the engine hoist is interesting but not apples to apples. The park stands are much more robust than you think but could use some replacement of the hokey plastic parts with metal. I'm looking at you height adjustment plastic holder thingie.
Also the comparison to the engine hoist is interesting but not apples to apples. The park stands are much more robust than you think but could use some replacement of the hokey plastic parts with metal. I'm looking at you height adjustment plastic holder thingie.
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My Feedback Sports Elite came today. Wow! I love it, light but solid as a rock. Thanks to everyone that recommended them, I'd never heard of them before.
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When it comes to repair stands, stability seems to come with weight. The stands I've seen made out of aluminum tubing are lighter and easier to carry around than the Park Tool Stands, but when you get to the heavy wrenching, the steel in the Park Tool stands makes them more stable than the lightweights.
Would I like a third leg on my PCS-10? Sure I would, I think it would make a great stand even better. But other people are just going to complain about the added weight, so we probably will never see it happen.
Would I like a third leg on my PCS-10? Sure I would, I think it would make a great stand even better. But other people are just going to complain about the added weight, so we probably will never see it happen.
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Prolly a pos , but tempting .
Pro Portable Mechanic Bike Repair Stand Bicycle Workstand | eBay
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I just bought a like-new PCS-10 on Craigslist and it is 1000x better than the Topeak Prep Stand Pro I had previously.
I also have a clamp -- and ONLY the clamp -- from a Park shop stand that I grabbed when a bike shop shut down. If you want it, it's yours for the cost of shipping. Let me know if you're interested and I'll send you a photo.
I also have a clamp -- and ONLY the clamp -- from a Park shop stand that I grabbed when a bike shop shut down. If you want it, it's yours for the cost of shipping. Let me know if you're interested and I'll send you a photo.
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Congrats; mine's getting pretty old (branded Ultimate) and still works great. My only advice is store with the spring-assist clamp in the full open position to preserve the spring's tension. It's kind of natural to close it, but that will weaken the spring and you'll have to strip and re-stretch it someday.
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Last year, I missed getting one of these at a church rummage sale. I was 10 feet too late. It sold for $20...
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Congrats; mine's getting pretty old (branded Ultimate) and still works great. My only advice is store with the spring-assist clamp in the full open position to preserve the spring's tension. It's kind of natural to close it, but that will weaken the spring and you'll have to strip and re-stretch it someday.
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My DIY red neck bike stand. Temporary until I break down to buy a manufactured one. (I have things on higher priority.
I built this in less than 2 hours. It is steady, but heavy. I don't plan on moving it much.
I built this in less than 2 hours. It is steady, but heavy. I don't plan on moving it much.
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I would think heavy weight would be preferable. Personally I'll only be using one in my garage at home and I have a large garage so its not like I need the thing to fold up a stuff in a closet or anything. I can see a lightweight and folding design being a great advantage if you live in a small apartment though. I worry about all the stories of them getting knocked over and whatnot. I've no personal experience with bikestands yet, but something similar happened with a tripod and camera. I just didn't think a quality tripod was that big of a deal even though I had a somewhat expensive camera. My cheap on seemed plenty sturdy, despite it's light weight. And I'd rarely use one anyhow. Well even with the legs fully extended I still knocked it over once by accident. The camera did survive, but you'd think I'd have learned my lesson. It fell a second time and that time broke my 70-300 lens. After that I pitched the cheapie 1 lb department store tripod and went for a heavy duty 5 lb manfrotto. Sorry for the tangent, just reminded me of that.
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