Barrettscv 

I've developed a preference for lighter and very supple tires like the Challenge Parigi-Roubaix or the Compass Stampede Pass. I'm considering keeping the 27 inch rims on my Motobecane Grand Record if I can find a similar tire in the 27 x 1 1/8 size. The hooked rims will accept a folding tire. Yes, Panaracer makes a Pasala in this size, but it's undersized and measures in the 25 to 26mm range.

Are there any alternatives to the Pasala in this size?

clasher

I think the only tire that comes close is the Sand Canyon by panarcer but it's a 1-3/8" tire.

oddjob2

Vittorio Zaffiros available in 1 1/8.
Contis and Panaracers come in 1 1/4 if you want more cushion.


https://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/tires/630.html

Don't get the Conti Ultra Sports if you want supple. Just received a set, kinda stiff and heavy.

Barrettscv 

What is the actual width of the 27 x 1 1/4 Pasala?

oddjob2

The Super Course MK II wearing them is at the back of the garage, so I can't check right away.

ThermionicScott 

That's disappointing! From the description I would've expected that kind of lightly-built tire that trades durability for nice rolling.

ThermionicScott 

I'll check mine when I get home, but they seemed really close to 32mm last time.

oddjob2

At $9.93 ea., I am happy, but unhappy no more in stock at REI.

Cheng Shin Czars are excellent bang for the buck if you need 23-25mm 700c tires. About $10 ea at Niagara. I have a set on my PGN-10

top506

The only pair of 1 1/8" Panaracers I have access to right now mike out a little over 28mm inflated to 85PSI on Weinmann rims. I have two more bikes with these tires back home in the barn; I'll measure them when I get home.

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Prowler 

I have a pair of Pasela wire bead tires mounted on 27" Araya A20 rims - 19mm outside width at the bead. The tires are 27 x 1 1/8 and measure exactly 28mm wide with 85psi Pennsylvania breathing air. No complaints - like Grandma's lye soap - good for everything in the place.

As to "high performance" I don't know. They are more capable than I am.

I have the Pasela tires on my Raleigh too: 700x28 folding bead. Other than the folding tires being easier to dismount and remount I cannot tell the difference in performance. They are more capable than I am.

3alarmer 

...not my experience with them either. I used a couple of sets for a while, had a casing failure in one, and had not been pleased with the way they rode so stopped using them. That was four or more years ago, though, and in that price range, sometimes they go to different makers for the product.

3alarmer 

...here is a Moto GR with Pasela tyres. IIRC, I went with 1 1/8" 27's because the larger size had clearance issues.





...a more open frame, with 27 x 1 1/4 Paselas. They have plenty of width in my experience, if your frame has the clearance. I just finished up a Gitane TdF that would not accept the one and 1/8 Paselas, because of fork crown clearance problems, so went with 27 by ones. On bikes taht originally came with tubulars or 700c's, you really do have to do some measuring. Or you can just have a supply of alternate sizes in a pile in the garage.

Darth Lefty 

True to size or bigger. Zings the crown at full pressure on the front and had to adjust the DO's to clear the bridge on the rear on my P10-9, which supposedly came with 1-1/4 sometimes, 1-1/8 other times. Fenders were listed as an option but I don't see how unless you also chose the sew-ups.

JohnDThompson 

Well, 1-1/4" converted to metric comes to 31.75mm…

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ThermionicScott 

They do say "32-630" somewhere on the sidewall. I made a New Year's resolution only to use ISO/ETRTO when discussing tires, but it felt awkward when I was the only one in a thread doing it, so I dropped it.

dailycommute

I mounted a set of the vittoria 27 1/8 but did not notice any real difference vs the 27 1/4. The 1/8 tire was harder to mount, had to redo rim strip to get it on. I have no complaints about either vittoria or pasela and am currently running a 27 1/4 generic specialized tire that is very solid. LBS sourced it was fairly priced and tire was Taiwanese manufactured to good specs best I can tell.

RobbieTunes

I tend to disagree, finding Ultra Sports, even the beaded version, to be pretty good tires for the money.

I'm not sure where 1/8" makes a difference at all, as it doesn't seem to on the TdF, with plenty of 25's and even 28's racing this hear.

If you want a performance 27" tire, perhaps a Gatorskin?

Barrettscv 

Well that seals it. I'll want to install fenders on my Motobecane Grand Record, so the folding 1 1/8" is the best option and a 1 1/4 will be too large. The Panaracer Pasela is the lightest tanwall in that size. I'll rebuild the hubs and re-tension the spokes before investing in the tires. I also considered converting the wheel set to 700c and have a good set of rims I could use. But disassembling a good 27 inch wheelset and converting it to 700c seems like a waste.

Seizedpost

I currently have Kenda K35 27 x 1 1/4" tires on my 1982 Fuji. I've never had it with any other tires, though with that said it rides nice and smoothly. I was thinking about Panaracers but my LBS had these in stock and the entire store was on sale (not going out of business, thankfully).
How much would I notice the reduced weight from a nicer tire, like Panaracers for example?
I'm not unhappy with the Kendas, but I'm fixing up a bike for someone else now. He'd be happy to buy my nearly new Kendas for almost what I paid for them. It seems like an opportunity to upgrade if it's worth it.
Does anyone have experience with Kendas and higher end tires?

3alarmer 

...IME, the clearance issues with these is usually on the front. So if it were me, I'd stick a 700c wheel with some sort of tyre on it and do some quick eyeball measuring for the fenders. Then likewise with some spare 27" wheel. Moto GR's were quite variable over the years, and even bikes of similar age (I think) seem to show up with slacker head tube angles than some of them.




I don't claim expertise enough about what was going on at the time to know why, but if my plans included fenders, I would get ahead of it at this point. I don't think i could squeeze fenders onto that one in the picture, because of crown clearance with that wheel and tire.

I just recently put together another one with 700c's, and I could fender that one if i wanted to........I might do it actually, once the rain starts here.

3alarmer 

...Paselas are about the best 27" tire I've found for my use. I think maybe Schwalbe makes some stuff that rolls as well, but costs a little more. There is a world of difference between riding around on Paselas versus those Kendas..........if you are putting them on any sort of decent alloy hooked bead rim and can take advantage of full inflation pressures, and are willing to make certain your wheels are properly tensioned and true.

So a lot of your experience will depend on the quality of the wheels you're using them on. I hope that makes sense.

Seizedpost

Thanks for the input. I have Araya alloy rims. They're single walled, but they are hooked bead and can handle full inflation pressure. I've been running 85 in the Kendas.
They say 27 x 1 1/4 on them. Can I still use 1 1/8 tires?

dddd

Certainly you can, many bikes were sold with 1-1/8" tires on quite-wide 25mm rims, and wider rims improve all parameters of tire performance (as long as their width is no wider than the tire) while also allowing lower inflation pressure.

BTW, ALL Pasela 27" tires run large, an eighth-inch larger (wider) than most other brands. I would call them huge!

The UltaSports are grippy and have long-wearing tread, but offer modest flat-resistance.

ThermionicScott 

Just pumped up the 27"x1-1/4" Paselas on my wife's Schwinn, and they indeed measure 32mm, maybe slightly more. The rims measure about 1-1/16" wide midway up the angled sidewall, on the outside, for what that's worth. Except on really skinny rims, I'd think the 1-1/8" version ought to do the trick.

Chrome Molly

I think the larger sized pasela tires are about as good as it's going to get in a 27 inch tire unless you find a NOS something or other from BITD.

I'd give the "sand canyons" a whirl though, as they seem less punatively priced than the compass offerings.