Alternatives to Panaracer Paselas
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Someone mentioned them earlier, but anyone have any experience with Clement Strada LGG's? I've been considering a pair, but am interested in how they compare to many of the other options listed in this thread (Paselas, Grand Prix Classics, Veloflex, Vittoria, etc.)
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Conti also makes the GP4000 with the retro brown sidewalls. Come in 700 x 20, 700 x 23, 700 x 25, & 700 x 28.
Can be found for under $40 if you are patient.
Can be found for under $40 if you are patient.
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Paselas have a poor reputation in the tandem community.
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Veloflex Master clincher 700 X 25 black / gum sidewall 2 tires (1 pair)
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Much cheaper here. MaineCycles is immediate to ship and easy to work with. Where I get my tires except Compass from Jan.
Veloflex Master clincher 700 X 25 black / gum sidewall 2 tires (1 pair)
Veloflex Master clincher 700 X 25 black / gum sidewall 2 tires (1 pair)
OS on 25s, but they restock quickly.
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+1 on Conti 4000s being the go to tire by which I've judged all others when it comes to straight forward road hammering.
I used Paselas for the first time and found them to be just meh. Cushy but non responsive.
On my most recent build I went with Vittoria Open Corsa SC. Highly acclaimed and beautiful vintage look but I haven't logged enough miles to judge them yet.
It appears no one has brought up the Specialized Turbo Cotton. Great vintage look with the cotton sidewall but hefty MSRP of $80. I ride the Sworks Turbo on my Tarmac and love them. Here's a link to the Cotton:
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I used Paselas for the first time and found them to be just meh. Cushy but non responsive.
On my most recent build I went with Vittoria Open Corsa SC. Highly acclaimed and beautiful vintage look but I haven't logged enough miles to judge them yet.
It appears no one has brought up the Specialized Turbo Cotton. Great vintage look with the cotton sidewall but hefty MSRP of $80. I ride the Sworks Turbo on my Tarmac and love them. Here's a link to the Cotton:
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Wow, I've only seen them in the 23 and was looking for the 25. Will have to keep looking.
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BTW revchuck, I think I saw in one of your earlier posts that you were thinking about putting some 25s on an Ironman. You might check the Ironman threads first. Depending on the year, I think it was determined there wasn't enough clearance on the rear. I know I tried some Panaracer 25s on my 87 and had issues. I think others had reported the same.
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Not knowing any better, I opted for these in tanwall 28mm format for my 1976 Raleigh Gran Sport (on non-original Rigida 1320 700C rims), questing for the most period correct look in a non-vintage tire. I am by no means a connaisseur of tires, but so far (with low miles) I am quite satisfied.
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BTW revchuck, I think I saw in one of your earlier posts that you were thinking about putting some 25s on an Ironman. You might check the Ironman threads first. Depending on the year, I think it was determined there wasn't enough clearance on the rear. I know I tried some Panaracer 25s on my 87 and had issues. I think others had reported the same.
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Huh. I really like Pasela TG/PT's, whatever the flat resistant folding ones are called these days. Have put a bunch of miles on them on the Serotta Club Special in size 25 this year, no problems and a lovely ride, even on the century we did up in NJ last month. They've also done well on 27 inch size on the Voyageur. Am planning to put them on the Cinelli as well, and have a set of 28's for the Pelizzoli project bike. They're not Corsa SC's, but after a lot of flats in the spring, I gave those away.
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I put Pasela PTs on my first bike, my '88 LeTour. Specifically because they were well regarded here on BF back when I researched over a year ago for 27" tires. There is much more limited selection in 27s. I've had Veloflex Masters and GP4ks now on my 700c bikes and yeah the Pasela's aren't quite as nice but they are certainly a fine tire. No flats yet. As I recall the ride was better on the non-PT model (but then more prone to flatting). If I had to buy more 27ers, I'd re check what is available but so far I'd have no issues buying the Paselas again.
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BTW revchuck, I think I saw in one of your earlier posts that you were thinking about putting some 25s on an Ironman. You might check the Ironman threads first. Depending on the year, I think it was determined there wasn't enough clearance on the rear. I know I tried some Panaracer 25s on my 87 and had issues. I think others had reported the same.
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Anyone seen the conti 4000s2's with the brown sidewall in the wild, have pics?
If the brown sidewall tires is available in a 28, that would be a great tire for a fendered rig. The Black Chili compound is my favorite due to longer wear, but more importantly much better puncture resistance than tires like the veloflex masters or the compass offerings. The other conti offering with brown sidewalls also looks to have that compound, but probably in a slightly stiffer sidewall tire. The only flat I've ever had with a black chili tire was when riding through a construction zone and a whole mess of staples, nails, etc (due to bike lane ending with no warning).
If the brown sidewall tires is available in a 28, that would be a great tire for a fendered rig. The Black Chili compound is my favorite due to longer wear, but more importantly much better puncture resistance than tires like the veloflex masters or the compass offerings. The other conti offering with brown sidewalls also looks to have that compound, but probably in a slightly stiffer sidewall tire. The only flat I've ever had with a black chili tire was when riding through a construction zone and a whole mess of staples, nails, etc (due to bike lane ending with no warning).
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Hmmph. I have 25mm Paselas on my '87 with Tri-color brakes and there is no problem. Just another data point.
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The Victoria open Corsa (Vittoria Open Corsa SC Road Bike Tyre | Chain Reaction Cycles) seems to get better reviews than the Conti Classics. decisions decisions.