WolfgangVerne 

Thanks! Just ordered a pair from the UK, I'll see how they compare to the Paselas I'm currently running.

mtnbke

You can pretty much find just about any 630/27" tire or tyre you'd ever want from Continental, Schwalbe, or Panaracer. With all the various offerings available why on earth choose Paselas? They are a "master of none" kind of tire. Paper thin sidewalls, not suitable for anything but the lightest of touring applications, and then they'd still be the last tire you'd want in that context pretty much anyway.

Panaracer makes great great tires. Absoultely superior to Schwalbe in every context I've compared the two. Panaracer tires are of the quality of Continental tyres. Schwalbe is a distant third in terms of defects, and quality.

mtnbke

Umm…from ALL the customers that have had problems with Jan's tires? From Jan's admissions to that fact? From posts of the narrative of people that got hurt or almost got hurt when their Compass tires blew off the rims due to defects from not being able to seat properly?

Scroll all the way to the bottom. There was essentially a "recall" of sorts with defective Compass tires. They've been redesigned per Jan to not be problematic as his earlier Compass tires:
https://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/...th-deep-wells/

What is with myth that has been created around Jan Heine and narrative he peddles (not pedals). His a carny with a smart marketing niche. He's not cycling messiah.

Rocket-Sauce 

The confusion over sizes came when I looked 'em up on PBK.

It looks like you can scroll down and select any size, but if you choose anything other than 700 x 23, it switches your choice to black....

noglider 

mtnbke, you're hilarious.

rootboy 

You mean hilarious as in funny,?....like ha ha funny? Or just ...funny.

I don't get one comment.

"Panaracer makes great great tires."
And yet, Paselas are made by Panaracer,
And they are one of the only models they make in 27 inch.

davester

The article you cited discusses problems with rims, not tires, and has no mention of any kind of recall. Your response above makes no sense at all and relies on facts not in evidence. Adding boldface type to something for which you provide no basis does not make it any more believable...in fact quite the opposite.

As to your last paragraph about Jan Heine being a carny/messiah, that is simply nonsense. You seem to be the one who is trying to spread myths.

ThermionicScott 

Hmm, not seeing anything in your link about a Compass tire recall, or any admission that the tires had any problems. A little help?

Wileyone 

I think a lot of help would be more appropriate.

squirtdad

I used to hear it as "funny Ha Ha? or funny peculiar"

Chrome Molly

When someone plays mind games with Les Nessman, they're walking on thin ice.

T Stew

Already answered that... like I said I researched them here first and they were recommended. I am not going to dig up all the threads. There are other 27" offerings but I was also limited to what I could actually order (sure they make other 27" tires but they are not in stock anywhere). I did notice the sidewalls were very thin, but like I said I have yet to have a single flat after my second year of them on the LeTour.

eschlwc

"that's chi chi rodriguez."

verktyg 

I've been running Pasela 700x25c TG tires on my 87' Ironman for about 5 years without any problems.



I run 700c 23, 25, 28 and 32 Pasela TG tires on a lot of my bikes. The only size that I'm not over impressed with are the 700x23c tires.

I first started riding Paselas in 2006 - 700x25c TGs. I hadn't been riding road bikes for quite a few years. The Paselas had a nice bouncy feel reminiscent of Clement Del Mundos or Paris-Robaix red label cotton sewups that I used to ride.

I run my tires at 90-95 psi. The Paselas have a smooth ride with great traction wet or dry.

My other favorite tires are the 700x23c Continental Gran Prix brown sidewall models discontinued about 5 or so years ago. I picked up 24 of them for $12.00 each on a closeout sale back then.



They have a much more "sporting" ride than the Paselas with the same great puncture resistance but the side walls are very fragile. They get easily damaged, much more so than Paselas.

I bought a set of the new Conti 700x25c Classics. I'll give them a try next time I change tires.

verktyg

Chas.

mtnbke

Oops I made a mistake. It was the Compass rims that were the problem, not Jan's Compass tires. I got that confused. Sorry. If you scroll down to the very bottom, you'll see after the whole piece on why some of the Compass tires were blowing off that Jan acknowledges:

https://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/...th-deep-wells/

tashi

I'm just here to add another data point. I've had great luck with Paselas; PT and regular. I have 'em on my SS road bike (25's), my wife's mixtie (27x1 1/4"), my townie (28's). No excessive flats, but I haven't had excessive flats except for what I expect was a defective Grand Bois 28. And that time I left 3mm long shards of cable housing everywhere

They look right, have a bit of tread which I like for round town bikes that get ridden in the wet, and ride acceptably for the price/category.

non-fixie 

What's with the Pasela bashing? I bought a first pair for L'Eroica '13 because they got such great reviews on this forum, and have bought another four pairs since then (PT, folding, in both 27" and 700c). I have ridden them on the infamous Belgian cobble stones, the Italian strade bianchi and the rough gravel in the French Camargue and I've yet to get my first flat. I do keep them at the prescribed 105 PSI, though.

nlerner

Do you actually think that Compass = Grand Bois? Nice attention to detail.

noglider 

I suspect some people were disappointed after reading rave reviews for this mid-priced tire and didn't get the performance they wanted from a high-end tire. When you bear in mind that the Pasela is mid-priced, you'll probably see them as a great value. If you compare them with fancier stuff, you'll be disappointed.

My criteria don't place a high importance on puncture resistance. I don't get many flats any more, and when I get them, I don't mind much. I worked as a shop mechanic on and off for years, and I've probably fixed thousands of flats. Another few per year for me isn't a lot of extra trouble. New tires now have made breakthroughs where high performance doesn't have to suffer when you add puncture resistance. That's fine, and I'll take it if I don't have to sacrifice. But I'm also fine with a fragile tire. Not that others ought to be. The Pasela's sidewall is pretty fragile, so they're not for everyone.

randyjawa 

Talk about timing! I just bought a set of Panaracers 700c x 25 for my Jamaica bound Bianchi. Guess I will keep the old ones in the shipping container - just in case.

eschlwc

never had a problem with a pasela sidewall either. should i poke it with something?

Slash5

I run Pasela's on most of my older vintage bikes but all the talk here about Continental GP4000's made me order a set to try. At 205 lb I'll run 28's. The Classic is only available up to 25 and I don't see the brown wall GP4000 in anything but 23.
Ordered from Merlin, they have a set of 2 GP4000 with tubes for just over $80 shipped. bike-discount.de had a great price but shipping killed it.

noglider 

The literature on the Continental 4000SII makes it look like the amazingest tire ever built. For all I know, it lives up to its hype. Maybe I'll try it some time.

plonz 

You just nailed my experience right on the head. It's certainly a decent enough tire for putt putting around but I was naively hoping they'd be a cheaper alternative to Contis, Vittoria Super Corsa, etc.

noglider 

If we agree that "you get what you pay for," then there's nothing to complain about with Paselas. You get at least your money's worth. You don't get champagne on your beer budget, but hey, you had a beer budget.