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Old 11-14-15, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by thrasher9905
I was wrong about it having Columbus tubing. The seller claimed that it had it and upon further inspection, I noticed what was left of the Renyolds 531 stickers. And as for the top tube, I set a straightedge over it and it is straight.
531, nice stuff. What are you plans for this?
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That's a portacatena dropout: Portacatena
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Not sure what I will do with it yet.. I still need to get a job to support this bike addiction
When I start a build progress thread, I will tag you two in it.
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Not sure what I will do with it yet.. I still need to get a job to support this bike addiction
When I start a build progress thread, I will tag you two in it.
Cool beans. I'm a Trek road bike lover. I have an '86 760 Pro Series. You will love the feel of the 531 frame. Mine has 531c, very light.
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Originally Posted by The Golden Boy

I haven't seen those rear dropouts though... maybe @JohnDThompson can tell something about those.
Those are just Campagnolo 1010B dropouts. The first runs of those frames used Shimano UF semi-vertical dropouts. These changed to the 1010B dropouts after some breakage issues with the UFs. Then we started using the investment-cast Trek socketed dropouts.

Some 700 series Treks came with Cinelli BB shells.
The first runs used Cinelli shells as in the picture:



Later, they used Cinelli shells with a Trek logo:



Finally, they used the investment cast Trek shells with the integral cable guides under the shell.

And for what it's worth- there are 700 series bikes made with Columbus tubing... IIRC- TX770.
No, 7xx frames of that era were always Reynolds, and 9xx frames were Columbus. First digit indicated tubing type: 3 = Ishiwata 025, 5 = Ishiwata 022, 7 = Reynolds 531, and 9 = Columbus. Second digit indicated frame type: 0 or 1 was "Sports-Touring," 2 was full-on touring, and 3 or 5 was racing. Later, it got messier as 4nn and 6nn models appeared, 170 was Reynolds 753, and 7nn and 9nn started being used for Asian made TIG welded frames, and 3nn and 4nn for all kinds of stuff built to use up tubing and lug stock before dropping domestic production of steel frames.

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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
No, 7xx frames of that era were always Reynolds, and 9xx frames were Columbus. First digit indicated tubing type: 3 = Ishiwata 025, 5 = Ishiwata 022, 7 = Reynolds 531, and 9 = Columbus. Second digit indicated frame type: 0 or 1 was "Sports-Touring," 2 was full-on touring, and 3 or 5 was racing. Later, it got messier as 4nn and 6nn models appeared, 170 was Reynolds 753, and 7nn and 9nn started being used for Asian made TIG welded frames, and 3nn and 4nn for all kinds of stuff built to use up tubing and lug stock before dropping domestic production of steel frames.
Granted, I'm ONLY going off the Vintage Trek source- but:

Vintage Trek Gallery - Rob Hardin's 1977 TX770 Steel Road Bike

This is one of the TX700 bikes made with Columbus tubing. The TX700 appears in the early brochures as being available only with Reynolds 531 tubing. However, several TX700s with Columbus tubing have been reported. Trek called this model the TX770. At least some of them were special ordered from Trek.
I assume the ID was made with stamping on the tubes and SN, not just the remnants of stickers.


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It seems everything about the TX770 goes back to that Vintage Trek entry. But I find this exchange interesting:

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...rek-tx770.html

Originally Posted by unterhausen
According to the brochures on Vintage-Trek, there was no 770 in '77
I don't remember ever building one either.
Originally Posted by ScottNotBombs
The one on vintage-trek is a 77. Maybe it's still just called a 700, but with Columbus tubing?
Vintage Trek Gallery - Rob Hardin's 1977 TX770 Steel Road Bike
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Good point, I'm not sure how common those were. There was a certain amount of sloppiness in those days. I usually have to look things up, anyone that can remember the '70s wasn't there.

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