Eroica Riders - Rules Stressing Me Out!
01-22-16, 06:29 AM
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Why wouldn't a mountain bike from 1987 be allowed?
I would rather ride that or my Schwinn Varsity on that dirt ride.
I would rather ride that or my Schwinn Varsity on that dirt ride.
01-22-16, 06:41 AM
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I don't get it. Would you go to a square dance dressed for salsa? And if you did, would you expect the bouncer to throw you out? Chances are, no one is going to pick a fight. That's not what they're there for. But if you want to have a really good time, do what it takes to fit in. Or don't go.
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01-22-16, 06:44 AM
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A Varsity could easily meet the rules, a mountain bike would not.
01-22-16, 06:54 AM
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LOL.. yeah know what you mean. That thin handlebar tape (or fat foam), or crappy old [style] brakes and brake pads, water bottles that are piss-warm and hard to drink out of. There has been an endless number of tiny improvements over the decades. Maybe that is all part of the fun of such a ride.
01-22-16, 07:03 AM
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If memory serves, the rules would kick out road bikes with cantilevers as well (touring bikes, cross bikes). I don't think it's any big deal; it's just a way of paying homage to the history of the sport. Plus it allows a bunch of middle aged people to say hey our our bikes really are cool and gives them a reason hang out with other cool kids on a tough ride. That's why I think that the while the bianchi eroica may be legal, it really subverts the whole idea of an eroica. YMMV.
01-22-16, 08:00 AM
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So when you go to one of these L'Eroica events and your bike doesn't comply do they send you to a rack of beater UO-8's and Grand Prixes? Like when you go out to eat and the restaurant requires a suit jacket, and they have a rack of jackets for the slummers to wear.
01-22-16, 08:11 AM
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The snoots involved would never deign to own UO-8's. Even for slummer use.
I regard the whole concept rather suspiciously.
I regard the whole concept rather suspiciously.
01-22-16, 03:35 PM
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01-22-16, 04:03 PM
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Okay, technically it's a UE-8 since it has lights & fenders, but there's no shame in a UO-8! Though I am "slumming" on Dugast tubulars.
01-22-16, 04:08 PM
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01-22-16, 04:20 PM
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There is slumming, and then there is bicycle C&V'dom slumming, per a collection old purists.
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01-22-16, 04:24 PM
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I agree, but don't understand the need to do so on that day and time. I see it a lot at bicycle events, people tagging along, eating at rest stops, etc, without paying. They are a liability hazard, as well. EMS is there for registered participants.
I don't get why anyone would want to participate and not conform. The route can be ridden any time, right? I don't get that mentality.
When I score races, there is almost always a bandit runner or two. They use a number from another race, start with the crowd, and cross the finish line as if they paid and are part of the race. I've never understood that. It screws up the scoring. I guess some people are stuck in the sixth grade. As a scorer, I make sure to "pull their tag." Since they aren't wearing a pull tag, this has resulted in a torn shirt about half the time. Oops. Then, of course, we share their name, address, and all info we have on them (generally from another race they actually entered) with other scoring firms. They're barred from registering at events mine and other firms score, generally for a year.
I don't get why anyone would want to participate and not conform. The route can be ridden any time, right? I don't get that mentality.
When I score races, there is almost always a bandit runner or two. They use a number from another race, start with the crowd, and cross the finish line as if they paid and are part of the race. I've never understood that. It screws up the scoring. I guess some people are stuck in the sixth grade. As a scorer, I make sure to "pull their tag." Since they aren't wearing a pull tag, this has resulted in a torn shirt about half the time. Oops. Then, of course, we share their name, address, and all info we have on them (generally from another race they actually entered) with other scoring firms. They're barred from registering at events mine and other firms score, generally for a year.
I'm on a custom frame (very 80's stage race style) built in '96 but with all 1st and 2nd gen Super Record bought new BITD.
We'll see how that goes.
01-22-16, 05:01 PM
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Unless the SS has moved and taken over the event, the only comments you will get will be along the lines of "nice bike."
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01-22-16, 06:54 PM
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Also, people seem stuck on the 1987 thing. It has been pretty clearly stated for several years now that newer bikes that are "in character" will also be accepted to the event, they do need to conform however. My 2016 Bianchi will be ridden at L'Eroica because it conforms to the rules, non-aero cable routing, down-tube shifters, toe clips and straps, no problem!
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01-22-16, 07:05 PM
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All this turmoil,
Just think of it as living history, a war re-enactment for cycling geeks. It is a celebration of the glory of an era long past.
I'd love to be able to attend one day, and I have no problem with a machine that would live up to the spirit of the event.
This is C&V after all.
Just think of it as living history, a war re-enactment for cycling geeks. It is a celebration of the glory of an era long past.
I'd love to be able to attend one day, and I have no problem with a machine that would live up to the spirit of the event.
This is C&V after all.
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01-22-16, 08:08 PM
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120-130 miles with 10,000-12,000 ft of climbing over mostly dirt roads is a serious ride and you learn a lot about yourself, your bike, and the sport while doing it.
No way I'd characterize the guys I met in Italy on the 209K route as "geeks". They were serious, strong cyclists, some of the most impressive riders I've ever encountered anywhere, seeking the enjoyment and challenge that riding a vintage bike over a difficult route can provide.
There are lots of ways to enjoy and appreciate vintage bikes. Eroica offers all of them.
01-22-16, 08:17 PM
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I don't understand what the problem is. Get another bike that conforms. Your wouldn't show up at the local Ford Falcon rally driving a Mercury Comet would you? The old stuff will work out fine and you will have just as much fun. I've done 3 Storming Of Thunder Ridge rides on 1972 bikes. 5 speed cogs, triples and MAFAC Racer centerpulls. One year I had to descend down the back of the mountain in heavy rain. The bike was money all the way and the MAFACS did their job.
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01-22-16, 08:22 PM
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I keep wondering if I could get my Pedersen in compliance, would have to jettison the shifters, grips, rear derailer, inner chainring and possibly the handlebar and mtb brake levers.
At least the Weinmann 750 calipers are ok.
I'm not sure what sort of shifters could then be made to work, since DT shifters don't apply, can't be mounted. Campagnolo or Suntour bar-end shifters might cut it and allow me to shift.
Will a cassette wheelset be a problem?
This could be a lot of work, and would necessitate some practice and adjustments/tuning to get right.
I still haven't found suitable shoes for my wide feet, and I'm really not in for any needless suffering in that area.
And would the inspectors acknowledge a Pedersen as a road-racing bike without documented proof?
Did someone mention they were going to ride a 2016 Bianchi? Pictures?
At least the Weinmann 750 calipers are ok.
I'm not sure what sort of shifters could then be made to work, since DT shifters don't apply, can't be mounted. Campagnolo or Suntour bar-end shifters might cut it and allow me to shift.
Will a cassette wheelset be a problem?
This could be a lot of work, and would necessitate some practice and adjustments/tuning to get right.
I still haven't found suitable shoes for my wide feet, and I'm really not in for any needless suffering in that area.
And would the inspectors acknowledge a Pedersen as a road-racing bike without documented proof?
Did someone mention they were going to ride a 2016 Bianchi? Pictures?
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