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    Casual Student of C&V J.Oxley's Avatar
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    Shogun Samurai -- trying the triple triangle

    Well I couldn't just let it die on CL, so I brought home this Shogun for a cool forty bucks two weeks after I passed on it at sixty. Looks like it's been through the ringer but rides well enough. 105 everywhere but the mismatched-and-too-big 27" wheels. (Found a nothing-special 700c wheelset at the coop on the cheap, so that's resolved.)

    The as-purchased pictures ain't pretty so I'll keep them to a minimum:




    And a question... is this rear wheel anything substantial? Keep for future? Sell? It's laced to a 27" Mistral rim.


    Anyway, looks like I've got a project on my hands.
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    I thought you would grab that.
    " Gonna ride till I can't ride no more "

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3speedslow View Post
    I thought you would grab that.
    We are a predictable lot, aren't we?
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    Holy ****, i wish I lived where you live. That bike would disappear instantly at $150 in my market... I can't believe you got it for $40 and it was selling slow.

    Edit: also before GT started calling that the "triple triangle" the world called that frame arrangement "hellenic stays."

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    Yes!

    eager to see how it turns out.
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    That's an excellent value. Switch the wheels, and you've got what you need.
    I really like my 1000, which is basically the same frame with 600 components instead of 105.
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    It's pronounced, "Co-burn."

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    Quote Originally Posted by willydstyle View Post
    Holy ****, i wish I lived where you live. That bike would disappear instantly at $150 in my market...
    'Twas our favorite kind of ad: No picture. "Shogun bike for sale, $60."
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    Cool bike. Should make a nice ride once you refresh it a bit.

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    Wow, that's a nice looking bike
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    Will you paint it?

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    Casual Student of C&V J.Oxley's Avatar
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    Will you paint it?
    Doubtful. If I'm gonna spring for paint on a bike, it's gonna be the Paramount. Powdercoat crossed my mind since it's cheap and easy, but that just feels wrong. So it'll probably stay as is for the foreseeable future.
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    I've wanted one of these (or a GT or a Nashbar) for years.

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    You know it's going to be a good day when the stem and seatpost come right out.

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    And the honeymoon is over just that quick. Seatpost is stuck. Thing is, there's a total absence of rust or corrosion; I'm thinking it might be a size too big and was, I dunno, pounded in with a mallet or something, because it's obviously a cheap aftermarket post. No splits, cracks, or obvious deformity of the seat tube, so there's that.

    This is my first one. Guess it hadta happen sooner or later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Oxley View Post
    Doubtful. If I'm gonna spring for paint on a bike, it's gonna be the Paramount. Powdercoat crossed my mind since it's cheap and easy, but that just feels wrong. So it'll probably stay as is for the foreseeable future.

    I know how you feel. I have a local powdercoater that does frame for 100... very tempting...

    I have a Bridge stone that i don't love the color, I'm thinking i should trade it rather than paint it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Oxley View Post
    And the honeymoon is over just that quick. Seatpost is stuck. Thing is, there's a total absence of rust or corrosion; I'm thinking it might be a size too big and was, I dunno, pounded in with a mallet or something, because it's obviously a cheap aftermarket post. No splits, cracks, or obvious deformity of the seat tube, so there's that.

    This is my first one. Guess it hadta happen sooner or later.
    That shouldn't be a hard one to unstick (I hope) or not as bad as a fluted post. Apply penetrant, next day put the head of the post in a bench vise (with some wood blocks to protect the finish), and twist the frame. If it doesn't move, apply more penetrant and some heat and repeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Oxley View Post
    And the honeymoon is over just that quick. Seatpost is stuck. Thing is, there's a total absence of rust or corrosion; I'm thinking it might be a size too big and was, I dunno, pounded in with a mallet or something, because it's obviously a cheap aftermarket post. No splits, cracks, or obvious deformity of the seat tube, so there's that.

    This is my first one. Guess it hadta happen sooner or later.
    PB blaster is your friend! don't worry to much about crushing/damaging that seat post, find a bench vice and give 'er hell

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    It BUDGED!

    I've been working with a 50/50 blend of acetone and transmission fluid (read about it over in the Bicycle Mechanics section) and we should be back in business shortly. Post is already garbage. Vice grips are effective, but they certainly don't mind destroying whatever they grip.

    (sings)
    "I'm Mister Grip Miser, I'm Mister Vice! I'm Mister Teeth Grinder, I'm Mister Used to be Nice! Friends call me Grip Miser, whatever I touch... turns to trash in my clutch. I'm too much."
    (Google Freeze Miser or Heat Miser if you need a reference or don't don't know the tune. hahaha)
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    I think this bike has the potential to look great. I'm thinking white vetta style saddle. +1 on the vice method, it helps if you have a friend to help hold and twist the frame.
    My bike is cooler than me.

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    Fork looks bent to me................sorry, had to say it.
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    Casual Student of C&V J.Oxley's Avatar
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    My left shoulder is completely thrashed but the seatpost is FREE! (That earlier "budge" was actually an illusion resulting from a cruel combination of hope and vise grip slippage.) But four days of periodic PB Blasting followed by a serious workout at the bench vise has me moving in the right direction.

    Now, to turn this sucker back into a bike. Stay tuned...

    Quote Originally Posted by r0ckh0und View Post
    Fork looks bent to me................sorry, had to say it.
    GAH! It doesn't look bent in real life and I'm sure that's just "pic bent," but now that you've said that I'm gonna convince myself it's bent whether it is or not and it's all I'll ever see.
    You'll get yours. [shakes fist]
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    if you have the bike disassembled, pull the fork, you'll want to repack the bearings either way, once the fork is out, set it on a table and if it IS bent it will be obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devinfan View Post
    I think this bike has the potential to look great. I'm thinking white vetta style saddle.
    No way. I'm keeping the saddle in the pic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seabass_First View Post
    if you have the bike disassembled, pull the fork, you'll want to repack the bearings either way, once the fork is out, set it on a table and if it IS bent it will be obvious.
    Yeah, full headset treatment is on the agenda; makes sense to confirm then.
    ...Wonder if I'da thought of that on my own? 50/50 at best. hahahaha
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    The fork does not appear to be bent.
    Quote Originally Posted by Craigslist View Post
    Note to you BLOWHARD MORONS out there: The fork is not bent. Most PEUGEOTS of the '70s forks DID NOT line up with the head tube angle. This is normal. The last pic is from the 1972 Dutch catalog showing this EXACT MODEL in diagram. Keep your comments to yourself......
    It's pronounced, "Co-burn."

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    It appears to be circa 1987-1989. I'd appreciate the serial number for my database. TIA.

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    @T-Mar: But of course! FS702274 / S8P
    If this helps you confirm the year, do please let me know what it is.

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