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    At least with C and V you can't sneak a motor into your frame

    Way OT but one previously under appreciated aspect of the classic steel frame is that it is hard to sneak a motor into it.

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    Why not? It looks like it just slides down the seat tube. Just one more thing to get seized along with your seat post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icepick_trotsky View Post
    Why not? It looks like it just slides down the seat tube. Just one more thing to get seized along with your seat post.
    I think classic steel frames had seat tubes that are too thin for the motor to fit.

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    The ones I've read about require a 31.6 (or larger) seattube ID

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    seat tube diameters of 30.9mm or 31.6mm are much larger than C&V bike ST
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    You just have to be subtle

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    i feel like C&V is the only genre of bikers that NEED a hidden motor... cough cough gasp wheeeez...

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    Think Cannondale.
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    Electro magnetic wheels. Battery in the bottle holder or the seat tube, done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldsCOOL View Post
    Think Cannondale.
    You could hide a small-block V8 in there ...

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    I don't follow much racing, but... wow... even just circumstantially- watching the ease that the one dude just blew past EVERYONE and how he seemed totally matched with that one guy at the bottom of the hill and then... bam. Wow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by icepick_trotsky View Post
    Why not? It looks like it just slides down the seat tube. Just one more thing to get seized along with your seat post.
    I can already see the 'seized seat post motor' threads littering the forums, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Golden Boy View Post
    I don't follow much racing, but... wow... even just circumstantially- watching the ease that the one dude just blew past EVERYONE and how he seemed totally matched with that one guy at the bottom of the hill and then... bam. Wow.
    Dude looked like a lady.
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    ^ I think The Golden Boy was referring to Cancellara (video included in the linked article).
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    The "It wasn't my bike" excuse doesn't pass muster with me. The bike belonged to her friend and training buddy, so she surely knew what was up with that bike. It's the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS! Unless something catastrophic happens during warm-ups, I don't see any reason why she wouldn't have ridden her own bike for the Worlds. According to the rules, the team is also subject to a hefty fine and at least a 6 month suspension. She's got some explaining to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldsCOOL View Post
    Think Cannondale.
    Well, those two words don't go together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeirvine View Post
    Dude looked like a lady.
    Dude was all like 'sup.' The other dude is all 'sup.' And then he jumps the other dude's ****, and he's all like 'aight.' P0wn3d.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seabass_First View Post
    i feel like C&V is the only genre of bikers that NEED a hidden motor... cough cough gasp wheeeez...
    Well put, but the motors we need would have to be suppositories.

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    Decades ago there was an article in Buycycling! (pun intended) of what was called the checkered flag special.
    The motor consisted of a piston in the seat tube connected to the crank spindle that was shaped as a crank shaft, with associated valving trapped in a plug fixed inside the tube above. The concept was to have the piston in compressor mode where the rider pressurized the main tubes, then with the lever control, that pressure would be released to provide short term assistance when strategic.
    The hoped for approval was that the rider's own power provided the energy storage, therefore that the release of that stored energy was legal.
    Obviously that did not get UCI approval.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobbieTunes View Post
    Well, those two words don't go together.

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    I lose my mind everytime I'm on mine.
    Having a flat tire as part of the total cycling experience is highly overrated. Knowing how to fix one quickly is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJX426 View Post
    seat tube diameters of 30.9mm or 31.6mm are much larger than C&V bike ST
    I'm sure they could squeeze another 5mm out of it and get it in a 27.2 seat post if there was demand.

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    And I'm just going to throw it out there right now, because I know some are thinking about, and it's probably going to come up... I know it doesn't spoil the vintage look, but it's not in the spirit of L'Eroica Rules.

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    Strava as we know it will be changed forever.
    Having a flat tire as part of the total cycling experience is highly overrated. Knowing how to fix one quickly is not.

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    Now that's where all those rejected hover board motors might be going!....
    Heck, how many miniature RC toy helicopter motors can one fit on a BB?
    Some of those are so small the you can fit a number of them in a hub wire them in parallel, some creative planetary gearing design, and one should be able to get enough of a sprint boost with such! The possibilities are endless!

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle uncle View Post
    And I'm just going to throw it out there right now, because I know some are thinking about, and it's probably going to come up... I know it doesn't spoil the vintage look, but it's not in the spirit of L'Eroica Rules.
    HAHA, nailed it.

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