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Old 05-17-16, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by trailangel
Why not just one ring in front?
Smallest chainring for the Record 151 BCD crank is 44 T. And the Gran Sport rear derailleur can only cover 7 cogs. Since I want to keep those original components, I have to work within those constraints.
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Originally Posted by tarwheel
I did a Google image search for "vintage Bianchi blue" and found this shot. The blue Bianchis might just be a variation of the Celeste color, which has not been consistent over the years. However, I have seen photos of older Bianchis that were distinctly more blue than green, sort of a powder blue.
That's gorgeous. My bike wishes she looked that nice!

My guess is, that was the version of celeste that the paint guys mixed up that particular day. I believe the factory mixed new batches of paint from time to time, so "celeste" was actually a range of colors back in the 1960s.
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There is a wikipedia page that tells the story of Bianche Celeste, and they are still not consistent from year to year. And I agree that the picture above is gorgeous. If you weren't having gugie braze your frame, I would say don't paint it.
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Originally Posted by noglider
There is a wikipedia page that tells the story of Bianche Celeste, and they are still not consistent from year to year. And I agree that the picture above is gorgeous. If you weren't having gugie braze your frame, I would say don't paint it.
I agree, but I fear the Mad Brazer's skills do not extend to heatfree brazing . . .
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Originally Posted by noglider
The International feels light, and I love its lankiness. .
Tom, I forgot, what year is your International? As a follow up question, how long are the chainstays, from center of BB to wheel at intersection of seat and chain stays? Mine are apparently uncommonly long - I can run 650b 42mm wide Hetres with 3-4mm clearance on either side of the seat stays. I don't know of any other vintage International that can do this.
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Long reach Tektro brakes are $58 . . .
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Originally Posted by gugie
Tom, I forgot, what year is your International? As a follow up question, how long are the chainstays, from center of BB to wheel at intersection of seat and chain stays? Mine are apparently uncommonly long - I can run 650b 42mm wide Hetres with 3-4mm clearance on either side of the seat stays. I don't know of any other vintage International that can do this.
It's a 1974, and the chain stays are 43 cm. What about yours?
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Originally Posted by jyl
Long reach Tektro brakes are $58 . . .
I really don't want yet another wheel size, and I suspect I won't need 650Bs to reach nirvana.
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I really don't want yet another wheel size, and I suspect I won't need 650Bs to reach nirvana.
You might...
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Frameset is at the @gugie Spa & Surgery Center for bicycles.

I delivered it, labeled with the various braze on locations, and we spent a couple hours picking out braze fittings, fenders, and mulling over details for future paintage and rackage. Also inspected his other projects. He made me a really good deal on a Bianchi with an interesting integrated rack breezed to the stays with curved supports. Gosh I'd swear it looks just like the one that @Lascauxcaveman used to own. A pleasant way to spend the afternoon!

Now I'll go off and polish components, order decals, and so on.

Photo in my broom closet of a garage, before heading over to @gugie's.

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Originally Posted by jyl
... He made me a really good deal on a Bianchi with an interesting integrated rack breezed to the stays with curved supports. Gosh I'd swear it looks just like the one that @Lascauxcaveman used to own.
LOL. No doubt one of those "Unclaimed goods left over 30 days..." deals, huh?
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Originally Posted by Lascauxcaveman
LOL. No doubt one of those "Unclaimed goods left over 30 days..." deals, huh?
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Originally Posted by noglider
It's a 1974, and the chain stays are 43 cm. What about yours?
My 73 has 44cm stays
The 74 frameset is just under 42.5cm
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Ever consider that frame might get wobbly with racks and panniers?
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Originally Posted by trailangel
Ever consider that frame might get wobbly with racks and panniers?
Are you asking about noglider's International or the Phat Specialissima?

The latter was fine with 10 lb in a handlebar bag, we'll have to see how it does with heavier loads.
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Looks great John. Functional, classic and a bit eccentric. Looking forward to seeing it with the gugie braze ons.

I'm wondering if re-raking the fork lowered the front enough to notice?
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Originally Posted by nazcalines
Looks great John. Functional, classic and a bit eccentric. Looking forward to seeing it with the gugie braze ons.

I'm wondering if re-raking the fork lowered the front enough to notice?
Any effect hasn't been noticeable. The bike handles well.
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Originally Posted by jyl
Any effect hasn't been noticeable. The bike handles well.
Lowering the front end doesn't in and of itself change the way a bike handles - it's a very small change.

What it DOES do is change the head tube angle, something you have to consider when deciding to re-rake to a targeted trail.
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UPDATE!

After @jyl did a scanvenger hunt in Portland and made new friends, we picked up some vintage Schmidt E6 lights for dual bugeyes. In addition, we dug through my collection of vintage French fenders and found a perfect set for this project. I was outta gas, so I got some more. Time to spark up the blue flame. Here's some pics to tide you over:

I think I need to find a longer corkscrew

I've seen a couple of bikes that have corks at the bottom of the steerer. For some reason they were all Italian. There was one on this bike as well. What I've never seen is one in the seat tube:


I didn't have the officiale Campagnolo lungo cavatappi in più, so I tried pushing it through to the bottom bracket. Of course the down tube wasn't mitered, so it got stuck. I had to pull out some of my woodworking tools, a 6' extender and 3/4" spade bit to grind it to bits:



How ya gonna stop this thing?
@jyl can generate some horsepower. He can get up them hills just fine, but running 13mm wide tires pumped up to 175psi makes him a timid descender. These fat, sticky tires will get him flying downhill. You need powerful brakes with modulation...so brazed on MAFAC RAID centerpulls it is. I finally downsized my fender bridge from 3/8 to 5/16" tubing - looks better that way to my eye.



Fenderline and vintage fenders



[B @jyl's working on an LED and standlight for this guy[/B]



That's all the pics for tonite, more tomorrow.
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Looks great!

The fenders are perfect, I love how far down the fender goes in the rear!

I wonder what the cork in the seat tube was supposed to do?. I really can't think of a purpose.

BTW, the backwards pad carrier was my error, not @gugie's.
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Originally Posted by jyl
Looks great!

The fenders are perfect, I love how far down the fender goes in the rear!

I wonder what the cork in the seat tube was supposed to do?. I really can't think of a purpose.

BTW, the backwards pad carrier was my error, not @gugie's.
Back in the day you'd pull your seat tube and hide your amphetamines there. The cork kept them from getting mixed up with the bottom bracket grease.

And, hey, those are my brakes, so the backwards pad was mine. Meh, just for a test fit...
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Originally Posted by gugie
Back in the day you'd pull your seat tube and hide your amphetamines there. The cork kept them from getting mixed up with the bottom bracket grease.

And, hey, those are my brakes, so the backwards pad was mine. Meh, just for a test fit...
Glad you removed the cork, the hidden motor is going in there.
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Glad you removed the cork, the hidden motor is going in there.
No problem. They've got tests for amphetamines now, you know...

Alright, coupla more pix, then Mrs. Gugie sez get to bed!

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Stays aren't connected yet, but you get the drift.
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^nice work!

For grins:
VeloBase.com - Component: MAFAC Competition (Braze-On)

Also, someone once mentioned of a MAFAC centerpull performance upgrade by taking another center yoke and fit to the outer side of the brake assembly. Of course one would need longer pivot bolts to make it work.
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Nice! The fork rake/curvature is very pretty.
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