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Old 02-26-16, 07:28 PM   #1
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Help identifying 1980s Bianchi bike

Hi,

First post here, after lurking around for a while!
I'm looking to buy one of two Bianchi's listed on Craigslist for everyday use, and was wondering if anyone could help me identify them.

The first one is this. I think it is a 1990 Bianchi Mondiale with Columbus SLX tubing (I don't know if this is good or bad). The seller wants $325.

The second one is this. Based on the decal (pretty low-res picture), and hunting through catalogues from the 80's, I think it was made in 1988-ish, though I'm very unsure. The seller wants $300 for it.

Are these good deals? Which is the better bike? How much do they weigh? I currently own a Schwinn Continental but I'd like something a little lighter.

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Old 02-26-16, 08:45 PM   #2
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First bicycle would appear to be a 1989 Campione d'Italia based on the combination of Cromor tubing and Suntour Quattro components. Original price $600 US.

Second bicycle would appear to be early 1980s based on combination of single bottle boss and cables running over BB shell. Dropouts eyelets suggest a sport touring model, possibly of Japanese manufacture. Recessed brake nut on fork suggests it may be mid-range, possibly a Limited or similar. Majority, if not all of components, appear to be non-original. Definitely non-OEM decals and probably a repaint. Asking seller for serial number would at least allow us to zero in on the year and determine if it is of Italian or Japanese origin.

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Old 02-26-16, 09:27 PM   #3
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Wow, T-Mar replied to me!
Thanks, I'll ask the serial number of the second bike. Though, if the majority of components are non-originals, I probably won't go for it.
Given the state of the first bike, do you think it's worth the asking price? From other forum posts, $325 seems a little high.
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Well, the CdI isn't fully OEM either, as it has a 600 Ultegra crankset versus the OEM ofmega Quattro. However, it is more OEM than the 2nd bicycle. Regardless, there is a fair size discrepancy between the two. It looks like about 3-4 cm, so I'd be looking at the one with the best fit. I won't comment on the price, as I really don't follow pricing in the various markets. My concern with the first bicycle is the AccuShift indexed shifting. It's obsolete and not fully compatible with anything else, so it can be hard to find replacement parts when the time comes, if you really want indexed shifting.
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Ah, okay. Maybe neither of the bikes are quite what I'm looking for. Thanks for your help though.
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Depends on what you're looking for. The frame geometry of both bikes are going to provide very responsive handling with a smooth ride.

Both are mid range models with a mix of components.

The first bike has Columbus Chromor tubing which was used on medium priced bikes. While Chromor tubes were made of chrome-moly steel just like Columbus SLX tubing it wasn't the same quality and was a little heavier. SLX tubing was usually only found on better quality performance bikes.

The second bike looks like one of the Japanese made models. Many of those frames were made with Ishiwata 022 tubing which was made of chrome-moly steel too and equal to the better quality Columbus tubes.

The rust on the top of the first bike is a deal breaker for me. The paint on the second one is pretty thick.

The Classic and Vintage Bicycles: What's it Worth? Appraisals and Inquiries Forum was created to get opinions on prices and valuation.

Price vary in different parts of the US also time of the year.... Prices usually go up in the spring and the end of the year.

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First thing, they appear to be different sizes, #1 looks bigger. I think the first is overpriced for quality and condition. #2 as noted, mish mash of parts, but might be OK for that price.
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It is common for people venturing into lightweight vintage bikes for the first time to want to find the "best" bike possible, which translates into not being happy unless the bike is absolute top end. However that can be an unnecessary and even dangerous proposition. Many mid-level bikes are very very very very very nice and actually a better choice.

For example, my Bianchi Brava (with English BB, probably made in Japan but maybe Taiwan) was near the bottom of the "Performance" series in the catalogs. Frame sticker for '86 said IIRC 4130 butted, but was replaced in '87 with a World Championship sticker. Obviously Bianchi considered that more of a selling point. It came with 105 components, very good stuff. I built up the frame with Cyclone derailleurs, Tektro brakes, Mavic rims, now with a VO crank, generator hub, LED lights. It has been a SUPERB road rider and commuter. I've ridden it thousands of miles, longest about 75 miles.

The point is, don't necessarily be put off because a bike isn't SLX, with pantographed stem, full Campy components, and all-original, etc. That bike #2 could be a real winner. I can't comment on its price because that's a local-market question.
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