Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

Waterford winter project

Search
Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

Waterford winter project

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-10-16, 07:04 PM
  #26  
Senior Member
 
tarwheel's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 8,896

Bikes: Waterford RST-22, Bob Jackson World Tour, Ritchey Breakaway Cross, Soma Saga, De Bernardi SL, Specialized Sequoia

Mentioned: 36 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 196 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts
You did a great job on this bike and I'm very impressed with the wheel building. The paint job on your bike is incredible and I think the black components look great on it.

I bought my Waterford used as well, and like you, I could never afford a new one at today's prices. However, I might spring for a repaint at the Waterford factory when I retire. I initially planned to get mine repainted sooner but the color scheme has grown on me. Plus, I commute on it a lot and wouldn't want to mess up a brand new paint job locking it to bike racks.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg
Waterford - New River.jpg (80.9 KB, 55 views)
tarwheel is offline  
Old 04-10-16, 07:07 PM
  #27  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 133

Bikes: Many machines in pieces on the ground.

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 16 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by 1989Pre
I love the orange-into-yellow. That is amazing that you got a second chance at this bike. Losing the auction must have been bitter. It must have seemed like a miracle. It seems like you were meant to have this bike!
Are you saying you got the aluminum skewers to work? I was under the impression that one should not use aluminum skewers on steel (I learned this the hard way). What year is the frame?
Yes, I was pretty darn happy when I got that fake-looking email.....

I did get the aluminum skewers to work, with the help of a very knowledgeable mechanic at Belmont Wheelworks.

As I mentioned, there were three reasons why it didn't seem like it was going to work: (a) horizontal dropouts, (b) too weak aluminum skewers, (c) work-hardened Henry James dropouts. After multiple mechanics fiddling with it, and cranking the aluminum skewers as hard as we could, and verifying that the axle was shorter than the outside sides of the dropouts, we still couldn't get the skewers to hold onto the dropouts enough. Even Richard Schwinn advocated drilling into the dropout to put in some kind of set screw; another mechanic suggested a chain tensioner of some sort to hold the axle in.

The knowledgeable mechanic at Belmont Wheelworks suggested that we grind down the axle about 2mm. Even though it was well shorter than the dropouts by 2-3 mm, grinding down the ends of the axles did the trick! My theory is that when you're cranking down on the dropouts really hard, it is actually compressing them slightly, so shortening the axles gives them more room to bite or clamp. Anyway, I was happily surprised that it worked.
bikeclub is offline  
Old 04-10-16, 07:12 PM
  #28  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 133

Bikes: Many machines in pieces on the ground.

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 16 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by tarwheel
I bought my Waterford used as well, and like you, I could never afford a new one at today's prices. However, I might spring for a repaint at the Waterford factory when I retire. I initially planned to get mine repainted sooner but the color scheme has grown on me. Plus, I commute on it a lot and wouldn't want to mess up a brand new paint job locking it to bike racks.
Thanks!

You have a terrifically elegant looking Waterford, very classic and sweet looking set-up. I'm curious what the tire clearance is on those forks and chainstays. I managed to fit a 25mm Continental Grand Prix 4000S into the front, but I couldn't even get a 25mm tire into the back and had to settle for 23mm, especially with the axle / dropout problem mentioned above.
bikeclub is offline  
Old 04-10-16, 07:56 PM
  #29  
Senior Member
 
tarwheel's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 8,896

Bikes: Waterford RST-22, Bob Jackson World Tour, Ritchey Breakaway Cross, Soma Saga, De Bernardi SL, Specialized Sequoia

Mentioned: 36 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 196 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts
My Waterford is a RST-22 custom designed to handle wider tires. The tires in photo are 32mm Ritchey Crossmax Pros, and the frame would fit at least 35s. It also has canti brakes, making it easier to fit larger tires and fenders.
tarwheel is offline  
Old 04-10-16, 07:58 PM
  #30  
Senior Member
 
merziac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: PDX
Posts: 13,038

Bikes: Merz x 5 + Specialized Merz Allez x 2, Strawberry/Newlands/DiNucci/Ti x3, Gordon, Fuso/Moulton x2, Bornstein, Paisley,1958-74 Paramounts x3, 3rensho, 74 Moto TC, 73-78 Raleigh Pro's x5, Marinoni x2, 1960 Cinelli SC, 1980 Bianchi SC, PX-10 X 2

Mentioned: 267 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4511 Post(s)
Liked 6,378 Times in 3,667 Posts
Simply stellar, idea, bike, story! Absolutely love it when this happens and a plan comes together, very well done on all fronts. Please tell us you got a copy of the paper the PO wrote.
merziac is offline  
Old 04-10-16, 08:04 PM
  #31  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 133

Bikes: Many machines in pieces on the ground.

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 16 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by merziac
Simply stellar, idea, bike, story! Absolutely love it when this happens and a plan comes together, very well done on all fronts. Please tell us you got a copy of the paper the PO wrote.
Sorry, never got it: the original owner didn't have most of his documents on the bike, as he put it, BE (Before Evernote). And once I got the frame, most of my intellectual struggles were with getting the right seat post.
bikeclub is offline  
Old 04-10-16, 08:14 PM
  #32  
Senior Member
 
merziac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: PDX
Posts: 13,038

Bikes: Merz x 5 + Specialized Merz Allez x 2, Strawberry/Newlands/DiNucci/Ti x3, Gordon, Fuso/Moulton x2, Bornstein, Paisley,1958-74 Paramounts x3, 3rensho, 74 Moto TC, 73-78 Raleigh Pro's x5, Marinoni x2, 1960 Cinelli SC, 1980 Bianchi SC, PX-10 X 2

Mentioned: 267 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4511 Post(s)
Liked 6,378 Times in 3,667 Posts
Call him up and have him rewrite another.
merziac is offline  
Old 06-14-20, 05:34 PM
  #33  
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 5
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Great build. Thanks for the note—thinking about doing something similar!
rastaman8 is offline  
Old 06-14-20, 07:43 PM
  #34  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 133

Bikes: Many machines in pieces on the ground.

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 16 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by rastaman8
Great build. Thanks for the note—thinking about doing something similar!
I love how this project turned out, but getting ready to sell this bike, I just don't ride it enough.
bikeclub is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Quronos
Classic & Vintage
5
02-22-15 10:24 AM
Mindcrime
Classic & Vintage
35
02-19-15 01:46 PM
Hudson308
Classic & Vintage
6
09-04-14 04:31 PM
Wythnail
Classic & Vintage
35
08-12-14 08:10 PM
CTR999
Framebuilders
8
11-18-12 11:36 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.