Bianchi Saetta Photos
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Bianchi Saetta Photos
Photos of the Saetta I've been working on. Still some details to work out and a few things that could be improved, but here it is. Also is a "before" picture and a picture of the original owner back in the early '40s.
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Fantastic!
I'm told the Bianchi oiler is its own unique thread compared to other oilers and rare as hen's teeth. I know a guy who my have something if you are interested.
I'm told the Bianchi oiler is its own unique thread compared to other oilers and rare as hen's teeth. I know a guy who my have something if you are interested.
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It is a gen 2 Vittoria Margherita. All the rage by 1936. Won the Giro multiple times and the 1938 TdF, the second year derailleurs were allowed.
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That's the raddest thing I've seen in a while. I would love to try that shifting!
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Lots of hens teeth in this process. Yes please, any info you have is greatly appreciated. The oiler was my next fabrication project.
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You might think so....
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How many generations were there?
I know the first generation did not have the twist and flappers, and I've seen last generation with the flappers below the chainstay. There seem to be variations like "campione del mondo", Tour De France" etc., but I can't tell much difference. I did notice that the tab on the back of the ratchet does change location on some.
I know the first generation did not have the twist and flappers, and I've seen last generation with the flappers below the chainstay. There seem to be variations like "campione del mondo", Tour De France" etc., but I can't tell much difference. I did notice that the tab on the back of the ratchet does change location on some.
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Lovely bike!
Is the pivot for the tensioner arm a frame-welded component, or is it strapped on to the chainstay - can't tell from the pics?
Is the pivot for the tensioner arm a frame-welded component, or is it strapped on to the chainstay - can't tell from the pics?
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Why did you replace the clincher rims which could quite likely have been original for wood tubulars? Here is my 1941 Bianchi, it has the braze-on for the fitting of the Vittoria Margherita shifter.
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Thanks for posting. Those old transmission evolutionary dead ends are fascinating, and it's hard not to love any vintage Bianchi frame.
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How many generations were there?
I know the first generation did not have the twist and flappers, and I've seen last generation with the flappers below the chainstay. There seem to be variations like "campione del mondo", Tour De France" etc., but I can't tell much difference. I did notice that the tab on the back of the ratchet does change location on some.
I know the first generation did not have the twist and flappers, and I've seen last generation with the flappers below the chainstay. There seem to be variations like "campione del mondo", Tour De France" etc., but I can't tell much difference. I did notice that the tab on the back of the ratchet does change location on some.
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Molto bello bici btw. Want to trade brakes?
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Yeah, it's 7 mm x 1, not the most common thread around but McMaster-Carr has the taps. (What don't they have?) I'm curious to know what the the inside end of the copper tube looks like, otherwise I'm just imagining. I've got some plumbing from an automotive oil pressure gauge that might do the trick with a fabricated "nut". Of course if you know someone who has something I would sure be interested to learn more.
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Thanks for the offer. I have Model 39 calipers and levers on it at the moment. In the photo of the bike back in the 30's it appears to have calipers that have the 90 degree brake anchor like the model 35 and same-era Balilla, so I've been looking for one of those setups with no luck. In the photos of Citoyen du monde's Folgore it appears to have model 35s. My thinking was that the Fologre, which I believe was introduced in 1940, would be more likely to have model '39s. If you ever run across a Model 39 or Balilla setup please let me know. I have very little information on the specifics of the Balilla.
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Thanks for trying. I better fire up the lathe. What is the wrench size on the oiler "nut" My guess is 8mm based on the photo but that makes the walls pretty thin with a 7mm thread.
Thanks again for all your kind advice. Next major project will be a Folgorissima.
Thanks again for all your kind advice. Next major project will be a Folgorissima.
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I have owned both a 1940 and 1941 Folgore and they both had the right angle in the arm, mod 35. In both cases the brakes were with the bike when I found them so I rather doubt that they were later substitutions.