Help for Legnano models
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Help for Legnano models
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I'm new of the forum,
I' have recently aquired this legnano, but I do not understand what' s the model (I think that it's a Roma Olimpiade but I m not sure..different seatube lugs) and the year of the bicycle.
In particular on the ride side of the seat tube there is a number: FD2868? (i think that's the serial number, and I know that' s particular of the roma or gran premio model).
Can anybody help me about this two things??
Thank you and sorry for the bad English and the awful photos arrangement
PS: Here I attached the picture of the frame and the legnano roma olimpiade fro this forum but diffrent seatube lugs.
And this is the similar frame but diffrent seatube lugs.
I'm new of the forum,
I' have recently aquired this legnano, but I do not understand what' s the model (I think that it's a Roma Olimpiade but I m not sure..different seatube lugs) and the year of the bicycle.
In particular on the ride side of the seat tube there is a number: FD2868? (i think that's the serial number, and I know that' s particular of the roma or gran premio model).
Can anybody help me about this two things??
Thank you and sorry for the bad English and the awful photos arrangement
PS: Here I attached the picture of the frame and the legnano roma olimpiade fro this forum but diffrent seatube lugs.
And this is the similar frame but diffrent seatube lugs.
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I'm fairly certain that this is not a Roma. The Roma typically used nicer lugs and the stays were mitred and nicely blended into the seat lug. However, the definitive way to tell a Roma is to check for a cinch bolt binder slot on the inside of the top and seat tube junction (see photo). The Roma used a different cinch bolt than the lower models and required a binder slot.
The lack of the binder slot would indicate a lower model. It looks like it has Campagnolo rear dropouts. If so, it it probably a Gran Premio, though the lugs are bit cruder than the gran Premio I've owned and seen. Regardless, it should be no older than 1961 by virtue of the cable hanger boos on the back of the set lug, which was reportedly introduced for the Universal 61, centre-pull brakes.
The lack of the binder slot would indicate a lower model. It looks like it has Campagnolo rear dropouts. If so, it it probably a Gran Premio, though the lugs are bit cruder than the gran Premio I've owned and seen. Regardless, it should be no older than 1961 by virtue of the cable hanger boos on the back of the set lug, which was reportedly introduced for the Universal 61, centre-pull brakes.
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I'm fairly certain that this is not a Roma. The Roma typically used nicer lugs and the stays were mitred and nicely blended into the seat lug. However, the definitive way to tell a Roma is to check for a cinch bolt binder slot on the inside of the top and seat tube junction (see photo). The Roma used a different cinch bolt than the lower models and required a binder slot.
The lack of the binder slot would indicate a lower model. It looks like it has Campagnolo rear dropouts. If so, it it probably a Gran Premio, though the lugs are bit cruder than the gran Premio I've owned and seen. Regardless, it should be no older than 1961 by virtue of the cable hanger boos on the back of the set lug, which was reportedly introduced for the Universal 61, centre-pull brakes.
The lack of the binder slot would indicate a lower model. It looks like it has Campagnolo rear dropouts. If so, it it probably a Gran Premio, though the lugs are bit cruder than the gran Premio I've owned and seen. Regardless, it should be no older than 1961 by virtue of the cable hanger boos on the back of the set lug, which was reportedly introduced for the Universal 61, centre-pull brakes.
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I concur with T-Mar, the bike, at best, is a Grand Premio. Also, the slot for the seat binder is not always an indication of a Roma. I had a Gran Premio with the slot.
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A fellow Canadian has a site called Condorino . It has a great deal of Legnano related information especially on restoration. I hope it will be helpful.
A fellow Canadian has a site called Condorino . It has a great deal of Legnano related information especially on restoration. I hope it will be helpful.
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Here is a link to a page about my 1962 Legnano Gran Premio. It includes some reference to the original components for the bike, which was complete when I received it.
https://utahrandonneur.wordpress.com...o-gran-premio/
If you have other specific information requests or would like close up pics of the frame let me know.
https://utahrandonneur.wordpress.com...o-gran-premio/
If you have other specific information requests or would like close up pics of the frame let me know.
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Thank you bertinjim. Checked it! It will be so helpful for the legano project.
Here is a link to a page about my 1962 Legnano Gran Premio. It includes some reference to the original components for the bike, which was complete when I received it.
https://utahrandonneur.wordpress.com...o-gran-premio/
If you have other specific information requests or would like close up pics of the frame let me know.
https://utahrandonneur.wordpress.com...o-gran-premio/
If you have other specific information requests or would like close up pics of the frame let me know.
Beautiful Legnano Gran Premio you have. Thank you very much for the nice offers Oldairhead.I would not be hesitant to ask one day if I need any specific information.