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Old 06-27-16, 04:56 PM   #1
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Decent, cost effective replacement for suntour freewheel.

What would be a good replacement for a suntour five speed 14-28 freewheel?
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Old 06-27-16, 05:15 PM   #2
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sunrace on ebay
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...or another Suntour 14-28 on eBay. Or from here. I might have one on hand, I'll send you a PM if I do.
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I snagged a NOS pro compe from nearby my home. The 14-17-20 combo seems better than the 14-16-20 on the sunrace. I will probably keep the sunrace in the back of head just in case though. It is for a 1973 raleigh competition to replace the worn out atom freewheel.

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Exactly - just buy another "NOS" SunTour freewheel off eBay or similar... far better quality than the modern India-made SunRace freewheels, from the thickness of the cog teeth to the positioning of the pawls.
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I have found I really like suntour freewheels compare to modern shimano offerings. Though I have been meaning to try out the IRD ones at some point.
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I have found I really like suntour freewheels compare to modern shimano offerings. Though I have been meaning to try out the IRD ones at some point.
Why is that? I like the modern Shimano freewheels better. They shift better, are quieter, and they seem to hold up better.
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The two I have had experience with have broken rather quickly, though that may just be bad luck on my part. My suntours on the other hand cannot be stopped. Some still work after 30+ years of abuse before I got them, but probably still luck of the draw.

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In almost 60,000 miles of riding SunTour-equipped bikes, I've never had a freewheel fail - or a front derailleur. Come to think of it, the only thing I've ever 'broken' was a tensioning pulley on my Fuji's V-GT Luxe giving up at over 30,000 miles. It was about worn out anyway, but it cracked apart. This was in the days after SunTour all but disappeared from the scene, and no internet yet... I had to put on a replacement derailleur. I have since stocked up on various SunTour RDs (and parts) so I'm set for life.

I've been buying up SunTour freewheels when I find them at a good price just to have them around for refurbing my other bikes. Mostly six-speeds. Perfects, Winners, Winner Ultra 6, and New Winners... 13-18, 13-21, 13-24, 13-26, 13-28 14-26 and 14-28.
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I have almost 1000 miles on a Sunrace 6 speed, cost less than $20, and it works as well as any other freewheel I've ever had. Of course you only have like one option for tooth count.
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I have since stocked up on various SunTour RDs (and parts) so I'm set for life...
I've been buying up SunTour freewheels when I find them at a good price just to have them around for refurbing my other bikes. Mostly six-speeds. Perfects, Winners, Winner Ultra 6, and New Winners... 13-18, 13-21, 13-24, 13-26, 13-28 14-26 and 14-28.
I resemble that remark.
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I resemble that remark.
Maybe we Suntour enthusiasts/hoarders should be starting start a mix/match/swap thread...
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Maybe we Suntour enthusiasts/hoarders should be starting start a mix/match/swap thread...
You may have something there.... I inherited a box of Winner cogs from a buddy some years ago. I've sold a number of them, but there are surely some that I won't use (especially stuff bigger than 26T). I've got a handful of bodies that I won't use too. Maybe start a spreadsheet in google docs??


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You may have something there.... I inherited a box of Winner cogs from a buddy some years ago. I've sold a number of them, but there are surely some that I won't use (especially stuff bigger than 26T). I've got a handful of bodies that I won't use too. Maybe start a spreadsheet in google docs??


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Do it!
I'l be all over it.... with surplus parts as well as needs/wants
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I'l be all over it.... with surplus parts as well as needs/wants
well, a few years back, I did do an inventory of my cogs and put it into a spreadsheet. Good heavens.. it's not a simple thing, thanks to SunTour's scheme of making anything out of a New Winner body! 5, 6, or 7 speed, normal or Ultra.
It also gets complicated by the fact that cogs can be gold (for Pro Compe), silver or brown.

I need to review what cogs I'll need and update what cogs I'll be willing to sell. My guess is that everyone will be looking for cogs from 17 to 20 teeth, and there won't be many available (based on what I need and have). I used to wear out B17 cogs like they were going out of style! ... and they were.

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I like your idea of a spreadsheet for trading cogs and other parts... Since I ride where it is flat - no more than 30' climbs for overpasses - I rarely use anything but the 13, 14, and 15t cogs except when getting moving from a dead stop -- that's because I'm using the 38t middle ring on my triple crankset.

Or, you could donate those cogs/bodies that you don't plan to use to @pastorbobnlnh for parts for his refurbs... Although I believe he stated in a conversation somewhere that he doesn't have a stellar success record with rebuilding New Winners.

Or ... Who knows of someone else that likes to rebuild old freewheels?

Or I have the oddball but brand new Shimano MF-TZ20 that came on one of my recent acquisitions. Already replaced it with a SunTour 13-21 Winner Ultra... That one is free to a good home, but probably not worth the hassle of shipping it since they retail for only $12-14. I'll probably donate that one to a LBS or co-op if I remember it if I'm passing by...
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I would be game for a cog trading system. I have a few freewheels in need of new cogs, and one with a dead body and almost new cogs someone could get some use out of.
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OP likely has the space for a six speed Shimano Mega-range but with caution to chainwrap.

They are quite the deal and an excellent upgrade. I found a 7 speed version N.O.S. in the box for only $3. That of course is not the norm but often see them less than $20. For the 7 speed, I did have to get a longer axle and spacer.... found that too NOS in the freebie junk bucket at a LBS.
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I'm in - great idea!
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I'm in - great idea!
who else is interested in participating is this sort of spreadsheet?

I put together a spreadsheet that includes the cogs, bodies, and spacers that I know about. Most of my data is on the New Winner, although I have some experience with the Winner Pro and Perfect/Pro-Compe.

I'm attaching the Excel spreadsheet for review.... let me know what I've missed or what could be done to improve it. I suspect that it'll need to be used for a while before the bugs are all worked out, but it's a place to start.

btw, I am not allowed to attach a spreadsheet, so I'm attaching a pdf version.

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I have a bunch of old ST cogs and a few bodies.

Try setting up a Google spreadsheet.
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I have a bunch of old ST cogs and a few bodies.

Try setting up a Google spreadsheet.
that was my plan.. but it's easier to get some feedback without sending out invitations to access a spreadsheet.

what's your feedback?


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that was my plan.. but it's easier to get some feedback without sending out invitations to access a spreadsheet.

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Your draft was very well categorised, but I think it's a bit too complicated (first impression). I would align the users in rows on the left and then limited number of general categories as columns. The fields would then be text descriptions of ISO and For Sale. See this one for orphan parts.

On the other hand, your level of detail is great for an inventory. Perhaps a detail sheet for each user as a supplemental.
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I will definitely jump in as soon as I have time to go through my stuff. Will photos be supported, so that one can put stuff up that isn't necessarily 100% identified?
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...or another Suntour 14-28 on eBay. Or from here. I might have one on hand, I'll send you a PM if I do.

+1 That's the problem, Suntour made the best freewheels. Any cost efficient substitute is going to be a lower quality product. Freewheels on eBay don't have to cost the earth. Patience is rewarded.
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