Specialized brings back the Sequoia
07-11-16, 07:21 AM
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The new one looks much better than the mid-2000's version but not as good as the oringinal. I have a frameset of the early 90's version of that name when it was briefly brought back as a commuter (essentially a rockhopper but with the canti's positioned for 700c tires and with braze-on/routing for a hub generator) that I'm going to build up one of these days to do what this new version is supposed to do.
07-11-16, 09:50 AM
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42t chainring x 42 cassette = 27.3 gear inches on low end
vs. 50/39/30 x 11-32 (entry level AWOL) = 25.6 gear inches... hardly a noticeable difference, plenty for climbing loaded or unloaded for me, at any rate.
vs. 50/39/30 x 11-32 (entry level AWOL) = 25.6 gear inches... hardly a noticeable difference, plenty for climbing loaded or unloaded for me, at any rate.
07-11-16, 03:01 PM
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I have a few hills around here that are gravel strewn stand up affairs, unloaded, with my gearing in the mid 20's. Add gear and hours of riding before hitting those grades and gearing in the teens would be necessary and welcome (preferably one cog in the mid teens and one around 20)
Admittedly walking isn't that much slower but in cleats is no fun.
Admittedly walking isn't that much slower but in cleats is no fun.
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07-11-16, 04:11 PM
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07-11-16, 06:33 PM
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I like what BikeSnob had to say about the new Sequoia:
The new entry-level Specialized Sequoia is purpose-built and engineered to spend the rest of its life unridden in a suburban garage, and indeed many purchasers will probably return home only to find the previous iteration of the Sequoia already there.
07-11-16, 06:41 PM
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I am underwhelmed. Looks like everything else. Nice tires.
07-11-16, 07:05 PM
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07-11-16, 07:14 PM
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They brought back the "Sequoia" name, but I don't see much else in common with the original Sequoia.
07-11-16, 08:45 PM
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07-11-16, 08:48 PM
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...the official conspiracy theory is that it makes it easier to fit people, so you can get by offering fewer sizes of off the shelf frames (small, medium, large, xtra large, and sometimes xtra small.) Anyway that's what I read on the internet, so you know it's true.
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I could understand the disc brakes if you are going to provide clearance for 3 inch plus tires or 2.3's w fenders. Anything less and I would prefer rim brakes for their simplicity and ease of replacement in the sticks. IMO discs are still a "when required" invention that involves extra weight and extra setup and they are all too easily bent to the point of rubbing.
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07-11-16, 09:49 PM
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Name, Is recycled... the name.. sport tour became a GG
'Expedition' went from decent Tour to casual park type...
They Do that.. Business Choices..
'Expedition' went from decent Tour to casual park type...
They Do that.. Business Choices..
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07-11-16, 10:03 PM
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Personally, I think this new Sequoia looks killer. It has to be one of the best looking steel production bikes to come from a big name company in a long long time. It looks perfect for my purposes. I am loving the ride of my BMC Monstercross, but I may contemplate selling some stuff to get one of these. Can't wait to throw my leg over one and try it out.
07-12-16, 11:10 AM
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The original Sequoia was an upscale Sport/Tourer with a triple and upper end components.
I don't know what this Sequoia is, not that I think it's a bad concept for a bike- it's just not an upscale sport/tourer with a triple and top level components.
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07-12-16, 11:36 AM
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My LBS sold the original version. To me, the originals were like a dropped bar hybrid. I wouldn't call them a sport tourer at all. They were a bit heavy and truck-like for my taste. Sequoias would have been good for gravel road expedition type touring though, and there was nothing else like them at the time. The relatively fat 700c tires were quite unusual at first. Most touring bikes were not designed to use anything fatter than 32c.
The new ones certainly don't look anything like the old ones, but they do appear designed to serve the same purpose.
The new ones certainly don't look anything like the old ones, but they do appear designed to serve the same purpose.
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My LBS sold the original version. To me, the originals were like a dropped bar hybrid. I wouldn't call them a sport tourer at all. They were a bit heavy and truck-like for my taste. Sequoias would have been good for gravel road expedition type touring though, and there was nothing else like them at the time. The relatively fat 700c tires were quite unusual at first. Most touring bikes were not designed to use anything fatter than 32c.
The new ones certainly don't look anything like the old ones, but they do appear designed to serve the same purpose.
The new ones certainly don't look anything like the old ones, but they do appear designed to serve the same purpose.
The Sequoia was a sport tourer with Suntour Superbe components.
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07-12-16, 12:08 PM
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I was thinking of the first version of the Expedition. It has been 3 decades after all... Coming back now. Sequoia was more like a touring version of the Allez. It follows then that the new "Sequoia" really should be called the new Expedition...