jade408

It's been great so far. I moved from a less responsive upright bike. My bike friends approved of the ride. Pretty fast and comfy! A few other BF peeps have one as well and have good feedback. If you need to have lugs this isn't the bike for you! But the ride / options are great.

hansmanos

How'd I miss this one? What size is it, and could you post a pic? Or PM me. Thanks so much!

hansmanos

I heard back that the two ten is 19.5", so it would probably work. Haven't heard back about a great drive though. Definitely a strong contender.

hansmanos

Can anybody help ID this Peugeot? Thanks!

Peugeot Record du Monde 20.5" lugged steel frame bicycle

https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/5671556102.html

Vintage Peugeot Record du Monde 20.5" lugged steel frame bicycle in excellent condition for sale. From the early 1980s. All original except the handlebars and brake levers. Rigida wheels w/ decent Continental tires. Great for someone who is 5'8" or l ...

HamboneSlim

Late 70s-early 80s style UO8. A comfy, if slightly heavy, touring bike.

A UO8 has been my main ride for 44 years.

Precisely what sort of touring do you two plan on doing? Mixtes are the prettiest, IMO, but personally I'd go with a regular frame if you're planning on loading it down with gear. For day-touring, you can't beat the charm and style of a mixte. If I could find one in 64cm frame, I'd set it up with a 54t chainring and a 12t small cog, just to annoy the plastic road bike boys.

Salamandrine 

I think that may be a 1977 PA10, or something very similar. Like one notch below a PX10. Color is correct! If the GF fits, buy it. Have her step over it. Both feet must be flat on the ground. !

Perhaps one of the resident Peugeot experts can chime in. I never worked in a Peugeot shop during my wrenching career, so I don't know the line up that well.

hansmanos

That was my gut guess, so I'm getting better at this!

We mainly do day touring, but want to start making longer multi-day treks.

Salamandrine 

It's not a UO-8. Note the Stronglight crankset, alloy rims, frame tubing sticker, and chrome fork ends.

HamboneSlim

Not claiming to be an expert Peugeot-spotter, but it is my understanding that they introduced new designations in the late 70s, and UO8 was dropped. I believe this is the successor model.

The lugs are the same as the UO8. The forks, and top tube and fork stay decals are also the same. The fork lugs are half-painted, like the older PR10. Alloy rims and cotterless cranks would be an appropriate improvement over the old model.

I can't make out the tubing decal; is it "tubes special allege peugeot" or something better?

Also appears to be a Simplex derailleur. Can't make out if it's all-alloy, or oxidized Delrin.

At any rate, if it fits, it should clean up nice.

Re: touchup paint.
As long as I've had this blue UO8 (42 years) I've never found a good hardware store match, nor have I seen an auto color that looks a good match. It appears to be a blue with just a hint, a suggestion, a murmur of green. Mixing metallic blue with just a whisper of green might get you there. I think using yellow instead of green would take you too far too fast.

Salamandrine 

I found a good catalog source.

We are both half right perhaps. I think it looks like a '77 UO10, which is a model up from the UO8, though they were actually still in production at the time.

It's a pretty big large upgrade I think, kind of like going from the Motobecane Mirage to the Grand Touring. Stronglight TS crank and Simplex alloy derailleurs, Rigida or Super Champion rims.

If anyone else knows better, please chime in...

Peugeots are sort of complicated by having different line ups for different countries.

HamboneSlim

meh. just went to the sprayroom to try and mix something up to touch up the UO8, and came away with the same results as always - poor. The original finish appears to be a transparent color over silver, giving it a lot of depth and clarity. They used to call these "candy apple" finishes. Any touch-up color mixed when applied looks like a dull, opaque blot on the original transparent finish.

Insidious C. 

Willing to work on bike, you say? I can set you up with a cheap 19" (48cm) Nishiki Sport mixtie, color blue. Needs rear hanger alignment and reassembly. North roads handlebar and stem shifters. It's in Bothell. 2x6 gearing. 27" Alum alloy wheels. PM if interested.

HamboneSlim

Yes, UO10 looks like a good bet. All the more reason to consider this bike if it's a good fit.

hansmanos

Shoot! The standover height on the UO10 is 31.25". Her inseam is 29". So it's looking like a kids bike (which is basically what she has and hates) or a mixte.

Trakhak

For some reason, discussions of mixtes on this site usually leave out the crucial fact that the top of the head tube is higher than the top of the seat tube, thus putting the handlebars higher than they'd be on a diamond-frame bike of comparable size. Our shop sold lots of Raleigh, Motobecane, Gitane, and Peugeot mixtes to women back in the '70s on the strength of that difference.

And does anyone other than me remember that the better mixtes used to come in a choice of sizes? Motobecane, for one, offered 19" and 22" mixtes, since both short and tall women often have trouble fitting on horizontal-top-tube bikes.

Despite the fact that this is the Classic and Vintage forum, at least a few of you would likely agree that a Bikes Direct mixte is worth considering. (Aluminum frame, but that's a plus in my view and experience.)

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Looks as if they still have 44 cm in stock. If she ends up buying the Motobecane mixte, be prepared to swap out the stem. The one pictured looks ridiculously long.

Standalone 

Just measured. it's 20.5" or about 52cm. Too big, I think?

I recommend considering that Nishiki. https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/5679262533.html

A claw RD is not a deal breaker, and those particular stem shifters are actually well-regarded as far as stem shifters go. (I think that they are the SunTour ones that came with many Japanese bikes that had otherwise very good SunTour VGT Luxe mech.

If it fits and rides well, then I'd grab it, with the idea of swapping out the old crankset down the road. Offer $80....

EDIT: never mind -- wheels are steel rims. That's a deal breaker for touring. Never mind.

hansmanos

Yes, I think the 52cm would be too big. Thanks for the offer, I really appreciate it!

noglider 

How tall is she? A lot of the old bikes built for small women had reaches (distance from saddle to handlebar) that were too long. This is one area where new bikes are much better.

rekmeyata

It's difficult to find a good higher quality vintage mixte bike but with enough searching you might turn one up. Raleigh Marathon, Miyata which was mentioned are great bikes, Fuji S10 SL, or S12 SL, Nishiki Sport, I don't care much for vintage French bikes due to difficulty finding parts and their frames were very noodly especially Peugeot (though they were probably the nicest looking) which is something you don't want while touring, Trek 420L, Centurion had a couple of good ones like the Le Mans, Univega Arrowpace, basically most Japanese brands are usually pretty good. There were others too like Mercian, Jeunet but those more custom type frames are all but impossible to find. The Motobecane had a good one that used a twin tubed top tube which seemed to be a bit stiffer than the single tubed top tube, so look for that one if you have a Moto in mind.

Also due to the way a mixte frame is constructed they will tend to be more noodly than a regular style "mens" bike which when loaded will have a greater tendency to wobble, but there is a way you can stiffen it up a bit, and that's by using either a cromoly or even a bit more so a stainless steel rear rack but stainless is expensive, an aluminum one will flex along with the the bike. This will require that whatever bike you find it must have at least rear braze ons to except a rack. Don't get cromoly steel mixed up with cheap steel, their not the same at all. Madison Summit and Tortec Stainless both make reasonably priced stainless steel racks, they do ship out of England but the cost is worth it.

Iowegian

I'm with rhm on this one and I think if she is 5'1" and not looking for something more than an around town bike, your best best is to get a bike with 650c or 24" wheels. There are some good 'junior racing' or even cross bikes make with this configuration that would work well. If you don't care about looks, old rigid mtb's can be found in small sizes and can make great touring bikes.


I know this one is not in your budget, location or style but it gives you an idea what is out there. Redline Conquest 44 Cyclocross bike


This one needs some work but might fit the bill, just as an example....
Vintage Raleigh Rapide Junior Racer true mixte!!

hansmanos

She's 5'1" in the morning; 29" inseam. She's got a longer torso and shorter legs. We'd like to do longer tours of 2-3 days. But I will probably end up carrying more of the load. Junior racer might be a decent way to go. I hope we find time this weekend to get her on a few bikes to see what fits.

noglider 

Please read Peter White's article on fitting a bike. His approach is very different from those of most people, and I think it makes a ton of sense.

Bronte

As someone 5'1", I recommend 650c wheels also. It will be a hunt though. Bianchi for some years in the 90s made some of its smaller frames with 650c.

KenNC

Saw this 50cm mixte frame with headset and bb, but don't know if it really fits your needs:

hansmanos

I know it's been a thousand years, but I thought I'd put a bow on it anyway. Ended up with a 48 cm Centurion Elite GT. It fits her well and has everything I was looking for in a touring rig. Incredible, nearly new condition. Thanks for all your help and advice!