How 'retrogrouchy' are you?
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really getting tired of being quoted out of context by you people.
Also, y'all let me speak for me - I do it just fine - I'm not putting words in any of your mouths.
You didn't read anything I posted, you just picked a few words out of it and claimed to represent me with what you added to it - but you didn't and you don't - you misrepresent me. and I represent myself just fine, thank you
something about bicycles makes for a much more antisocial group than most places on the internet
Also, y'all let me speak for me - I do it just fine - I'm not putting words in any of your mouths.
You didn't read anything I posted, you just picked a few words out of it and claimed to represent me with what you added to it - but you didn't and you don't - you misrepresent me. and I represent myself just fine, thank you
something about bicycles makes for a much more antisocial group than most places on the internet
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Not to derail (sorry) the current thread but what is the oldest, and the most actually ride-able machines for distance in slightly rolling terrain you own?
Having lent a copy of "Gironimo!: Riding the Very Terrible 1914 Tour of Italy" to the old teammate that I do a fixed gear century with every so often he has decided that doing the same on what purports to be a Period Correct 1930's era skip chain track bike would be a "Good Idea". You can see where "gullible" comes in here as well as ill-advised and overly aggressive: All symptoms of being the Ex-Trackie he is.
Naturally I am expected to travel to some TX backwater to "evaluate" a type of machine that I last saw covered with cobwebs >40 years ago and (unsaid) restore it to a 1935 board track like-new condition with little if any effort and certainly no delays or expenditure of $$$.
A Doddle, No?
Now back to carping about how no one knows what flavor of bicycle to ride anymore.
An odd sermon when injected into the Classic & Vintage sub-forum where we All ride obsolete machines and quite likely have for a good long time just because.
I thought that we were the Faithful to the Good Old Stuff still in service.....guess not.
-Bandera
Having lent a copy of "Gironimo!: Riding the Very Terrible 1914 Tour of Italy" to the old teammate that I do a fixed gear century with every so often he has decided that doing the same on what purports to be a Period Correct 1930's era skip chain track bike would be a "Good Idea". You can see where "gullible" comes in here as well as ill-advised and overly aggressive: All symptoms of being the Ex-Trackie he is.
Naturally I am expected to travel to some TX backwater to "evaluate" a type of machine that I last saw covered with cobwebs >40 years ago and (unsaid) restore it to a 1935 board track like-new condition with little if any effort and certainly no delays or expenditure of $$$.
A Doddle, No?
Now back to carping about how no one knows what flavor of bicycle to ride anymore.
An odd sermon when injected into the Classic & Vintage sub-forum where we All ride obsolete machines and quite likely have for a good long time just because.
I thought that we were the Faithful to the Good Old Stuff still in service.....guess not.
-Bandera
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Reading these posts makes me so happy I moved to Portland. Vintage is cool. I see more lugged, steel frames riding around this town, people wearing regular looking clothes, and it's not age specific either. On the contrary, the youth of Portland (having moved here to retire ;-) ) revels in their wearing thrift store clothing, riding old steel frames, upgraded wheels and fenders, and the ubiquitous B-17 saddle, so many that they're often stolen. I see bikes without seatposts locked up on the streets, and wonder if it was stolen, or whether the owner just pulls it out and throws it in their locally hand knitted swag bag.
There are 70 bike shops in Portland proper, last anyone checked. An amazing number of them don't sell bikes at all, and if they do, they're on consignment, or used refurbs; they make a living repairing and upgrading them.
There are 70 bike shops in Portland proper, last anyone checked. An amazing number of them don't sell bikes at all, and if they do, they're on consignment, or used refurbs; they make a living repairing and upgrading them.
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Reading these posts makes me so happy I moved to Portland. Vintage is cool. I see more lugged, steel frames riding around this town, people wearing regular looking clothes, and it's not age specific either. On the contrary, the youth of Portland (having moved here to retire ;-) ) revels in their wearing thrift store clothing, riding old steel frames, upgraded wheels and fenders, and the ubiquitous B-17 saddle, so many that they're often stolen. I see bikes without seatposts locked up on the streets, and wonder if it was stolen, or whether the owner just pulls it out and throws it in their locally hand knitted swag bag.
There are 70 bike shops in Portland proper, last anyone checked. An amazing number of them don't sell bikes at all, and if they do, they're on consignment, or used refurbs; they make a living repairing and upgrading them.
There are 70 bike shops in Portland proper, last anyone checked. An amazing number of them don't sell bikes at all, and if they do, they're on consignment, or used refurbs; they make a living repairing and upgrading them.
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We're starting to touch some nerves.
Please take a deep breath and count a few extra mississippi's before continuing to post folks.
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Please take a deep breath and count a few extra mississippi's before continuing to post folks.
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Good question!
"Ruby my Dear" could be my favorite as well, esp. from the Monk-Coltrane recording:
To play, "Blue Monk" is always fun and Ruby is great as I play weekly with tenor man who has fantastic tone. For solo piano, my favorite to play is undoubtedly "Round Midnight".
"Ruby my Dear" could be my favorite as well, esp. from the Monk-Coltrane recording:
To play, "Blue Monk" is always fun and Ruby is great as I play weekly with tenor man who has fantastic tone. For solo piano, my favorite to play is undoubtedly "Round Midnight".
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It's very different from Texas, here. I'm probably going to delete my account.
Can't say anything without drawing a crowd of narcissists.
On this thread alone, I have been partially quoted and misrepresented 60 times by the same 3 people, who accuse me of making this thread about me.
I'm known everywhere for offering helpful information to fellow forum members. But there appears to be few fellows on this forum. I gave away a 40-y-o derailleur to help someone across the planet complete a bile. Mailed it out today.
Good luck.
Can't say anything without drawing a crowd of narcissists.
On this thread alone, I have been partially quoted and misrepresented 60 times by the same 3 people, who accuse me of making this thread about me.
I'm known everywhere for offering helpful information to fellow forum members. But there appears to be few fellows on this forum. I gave away a 40-y-o derailleur to help someone across the planet complete a bile. Mailed it out today.
Good luck.
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Good question!
"Ruby my Dear" could be my favorite as well, esp. from the Monk-Coltrane recording:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2ZFdJEPi2Y
To play, "Blue Monk" is always fun and Ruby is great as I play weekly with tenor man who has fantastic tone. For solo piano, my favorite to play is undoubtedly "Round Midnight".
"Ruby my Dear" could be my favorite as well, esp. from the Monk-Coltrane recording:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2ZFdJEPi2Y
To play, "Blue Monk" is always fun and Ruby is great as I play weekly with tenor man who has fantastic tone. For solo piano, my favorite to play is undoubtedly "Round Midnight".
-Bandera
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It's very different from Texas, here. I'm probably going to delete my account.
Can't say anything without drawing a crowd of narcissists.
On this thread alone, I have been partially quoted and misrepresented 60 times by the same 3 people, who accuse me of making this thread about me.
I'm known everywhere for offering helpful information to fellow forum members. But there appears to be few fellows on this forum. I gave away a 40-y-o derailleur to help someone across the planet complete a bile. Mailed it out today.
Good luck.
Can't say anything without drawing a crowd of narcissists.
On this thread alone, I have been partially quoted and misrepresented 60 times by the same 3 people, who accuse me of making this thread about me.
I'm known everywhere for offering helpful information to fellow forum members. But there appears to be few fellows on this forum. I gave away a 40-y-o derailleur to help someone across the planet complete a bile. Mailed it out today.
Good luck.
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It's very different from Texas, here. I'm probably going to delete my account.
Can't say anything without drawing a crowd of narcissists.
On this thread alone, I have been partially quoted and misrepresented 60 times by the same 3 people, who accuse me of making this thread about me.
I'm known everywhere for offering helpful information to fellow forum members. But there appears to be few fellows on this forum. I gave away a 40-y-o derailleur to help someone across the planet complete a bile. Mailed it out today.
Good luck.
Can't say anything without drawing a crowd of narcissists.
On this thread alone, I have been partially quoted and misrepresented 60 times by the same 3 people, who accuse me of making this thread about me.
I'm known everywhere for offering helpful information to fellow forum members. But there appears to be few fellows on this forum. I gave away a 40-y-o derailleur to help someone across the planet complete a bile. Mailed it out today.
Good luck.
I can't speak for Texas, but my experience with the internet is that people will take any chance they get to undermine you and argue with you. It's the Wild West out here . You seem to have had better experiences elsewhere. Good, I'm glad to hear that.
As an advocate for the forums, I'd like to think this place can be a great resource for useful information, informative discussion, or just pointless banter and camaraderie as well. But hey, you've got to take the good with the bad I suppose.
You have some very refined opinions about bikes and about what/how people should ride, and whether or not it's correct is besides the point that your views are going to be controversial and provocative in any conversational venue that features cyclists of all walks.
I hope you can give the forums another shot and take people's banter with a grain of salt. LMK if there is anything that I can do to help. There is always the "Report Post" function .
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I watched the first few seasons of it. I like many of the recurring skits; Feminist Bookstore or Nina and Lance usually got me laughing.
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Back on topic:
I'm not really a retrogrouch but I'm a young, fit racer and I like going fast. My two road bikes are carbon and Al spaceships, really nice bikes. On the flip side, my SS/FG road bike and MTB are steel framed, classy rigs.
I think that retro bikes can be very cool, stylish and really nice riding. The first road bike I owned and raced on back in 2006 was a 90's era Centurion Ironman with indexed tri-color Shimano 600, not sure if that counts as retro or not. Regardless, I loved that thing.
At some point I'd like to own a vintage Colnago or something and use it as a wallpiece.
I'm not really a retrogrouch but I'm a young, fit racer and I like going fast. My two road bikes are carbon and Al spaceships, really nice bikes. On the flip side, my SS/FG road bike and MTB are steel framed, classy rigs.
I think that retro bikes can be very cool, stylish and really nice riding. The first road bike I owned and raced on back in 2006 was a 90's era Centurion Ironman with indexed tri-color Shimano 600, not sure if that counts as retro or not. Regardless, I loved that thing.
At some point I'd like to own a vintage Colnago or something and use it as a wallpiece.
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Not to derail (sorry) the current thread but what is the oldest, and the most actually ride-able machines for distance in slightly rolling terrain you own?
Having lent a copy of "Gironimo!: Riding the Very Terrible 1914 Tour of Italy" to the old teammate that I do a fixed gear century with every so often he has decided that doing the same on what purports to be a Period Correct 1930's era skip chain track bike would be a "Good Idea". You can see where "gullible" comes in here as well as ill-advised and overly aggressive: All symptoms of being the Ex-Trackie he is.
Naturally I am expected to travel to some TX backwater to "evaluate" a type of machine that I last saw covered with cobwebs >40 years ago and (unsaid) restore it to a 1935 board track like-new condition with little if any effort and certainly no delays or expenditure of $$$.
A Doddle, No?
Now back to carping about how no one knows what flavor of bicycle to ride anymore.
An odd sermon when injected into the Classic & Vintage sub-forum where we All ride obsolete machines and quite likely have for a good long time just because.
I thought that we were the Faithful to the Good Old Stuff still in service.....guess not.
-Bandera
Having lent a copy of "Gironimo!: Riding the Very Terrible 1914 Tour of Italy" to the old teammate that I do a fixed gear century with every so often he has decided that doing the same on what purports to be a Period Correct 1930's era skip chain track bike would be a "Good Idea". You can see where "gullible" comes in here as well as ill-advised and overly aggressive: All symptoms of being the Ex-Trackie he is.
Naturally I am expected to travel to some TX backwater to "evaluate" a type of machine that I last saw covered with cobwebs >40 years ago and (unsaid) restore it to a 1935 board track like-new condition with little if any effort and certainly no delays or expenditure of $$$.
A Doddle, No?
Now back to carping about how no one knows what flavor of bicycle to ride anymore.
An odd sermon when injected into the Classic & Vintage sub-forum where we All ride obsolete machines and quite likely have for a good long time just because.
I thought that we were the Faithful to the Good Old Stuff still in service.....guess not.
-Bandera
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In fact the whole notion is a really bad idea .
I asked for a series of pics from various angles of this alleged immaculate barn find to see what it might really be. Useless is my guess.....
_Bandera
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Regarding fixed or single speed bikes - Ohmygosh! How did we ever survive into adulthood? Kid's tricycles (and the later Big Wheels) are Fixies. My first two-wheeler was a hand-me-down from my older sister (and even at that my parents bought it used!) 50-pound balloon-tired behemoth Western Flyer (Montgomery Ward). I rode that thing all over when I was a kid - and then for my 11th birthday I got a three-speed!! Cool kids were getting Stinrays (or clones) but I got a stodgy full-size 'English Racer'. I rode that all over as well, and in all weather - even snow - until the frame literally fell apart due to rust. In '74 I got my first 'ten-speed'...
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Not to derail (sorry) the current thread but what is the oldest, and the most actually ride-able machines for distance in slightly rolling terrain you own?
Having lent a copy of "Gironimo!: Riding the Very Terrible 1914 Tour of Italy" to the old teammate that I do a fixed gear century with every so often he has decided that doing the same on what purports to be a Period Correct 1930's era skip chain track bike would be a "Good Idea". You can see where "gullible" comes in here as well as ill-advised and overly aggressive: All symptoms of being the Ex-Trackie he is.
Naturally I am expected to travel to some TX backwater to "evaluate" a type of machine that I last saw covered with cobwebs >40 years ago and (unsaid) restore it to a 1935 board track like-new condition with little if any effort and certainly no delays or expenditure of $$$.
A Doddle, No?
Now back to carping about how no one knows what flavor of bicycle to ride anymore.
An odd sermon when injected into the Classic & Vintage sub-forum where we All ride obsolete machines and quite likely have for a good long time just because.
I thought that we were the Faithful to the Good Old Stuff still in service.....guess not.
-Bandera
Having lent a copy of "Gironimo!: Riding the Very Terrible 1914 Tour of Italy" to the old teammate that I do a fixed gear century with every so often he has decided that doing the same on what purports to be a Period Correct 1930's era skip chain track bike would be a "Good Idea". You can see where "gullible" comes in here as well as ill-advised and overly aggressive: All symptoms of being the Ex-Trackie he is.
Naturally I am expected to travel to some TX backwater to "evaluate" a type of machine that I last saw covered with cobwebs >40 years ago and (unsaid) restore it to a 1935 board track like-new condition with little if any effort and certainly no delays or expenditure of $$$.
A Doddle, No?
Now back to carping about how no one knows what flavor of bicycle to ride anymore.
An odd sermon when injected into the Classic & Vintage sub-forum where we All ride obsolete machines and quite likely have for a good long time just because.
I thought that we were the Faithful to the Good Old Stuff still in service.....guess not.
-Bandera
I have a 1948 Viscontea pista with skip-tooth. While I have been known to do an hour or more on the road with that bike, the 20mm tires mostly relegates it to the Northbrook track.
I also ride regularly a 2009 Cinelli XCR with 38/58 carbon wheels and 2012 Super Record. Full dentist. I believe it is on page one of this thread.
I ride what I ride because I like to ride it. Just that simple. What I won't do is tell you what or what not you should ride. People have a head on their shoulders and figure that out, it ain't rocket science. For the person just starting, they are pretty clueless, but if they keep it up, they will know 95% of it by the end of the first season. By season 2, Grant Peterson or Bicycling magazine is irrelevant. You know what works and what doesn't. For those who didn't want to keep up with it, their bikes with low miles are a great deal on Craigslist. There is a thread about that if you are interested.
I also read Mr. Moore's book. A bit too verbose for me, I didn't need to hear about so many pizza purchases. iirc, he used a single speed and never flipped the wheel once to the fixed side. He knew his limitations. He was not gullible.
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snip....I ride what I ride because I like to ride it. Just that simple. What I won't do is tell you what or what not you should ride. People have a head on their shoulders and figure that out, it ain't rocket science. For the person just starting, they are pretty clueless, but if they keep it up, they will know 95% of it by the end of the first season. By season 2, Grant Peterson or Bicycling magazine is irrelevant. You know what works and what doesn't. For those who didn't want to keep up with it, their bikes with low miles are a great deal on Craigslist. There is a thread about that if you are interested.....snip
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I regularly ride a 1933 Frejus with a first gen Vittoria Margherita digital shifter, wood rims with 49 - 17/19/21 gearing. Which is fine for no steep climbs.
I have a 1948 Viscontea pista with skip-tooth. While I have been known to do an hour or more on the road with that bike, the 20mm tires mostly relegates it to the Northbrook track.
I have a 1948 Viscontea pista with skip-tooth. While I have been known to do an hour or more on the road with that bike, the 20mm tires mostly relegates it to the Northbrook track.
Knew that you actually ride your pre-WWII machines.
Never thought that sending a copy of an amusing book would de-stabilize an otherwise sensible and experienced mind.
Good thing it wasn't "The Sun Also Rises" or plans would be laid to run w/ the bulls in Pamplona.....
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