Show me classic brevet bikes with 38C tires
09-17-16, 03:34 PM
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I was hoping you'd post this beauty.
One of the cooler bikes I've seen in a long time. The color just pops in person and I love the build.
09-17-16, 05:13 PM
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I explained to him how I ride my bike (mostly mixed terrain when alone, asphalt when riding with the local club and next year I want to tackle Brevets up to 600km). So I think now hw will understand what I'm looking for. If he doesn't feel comfortable even regarding his experience, I'll just have to look for another one.
09-17-16, 07:16 PM
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I don't understand all the concern here about toe overlap. This old frame from the 60s
wears 700C rims (23 mm wide) with a 36 mm front tire and fenders (now). Top tube length is only 57 cm, and it's a tall frame (63 cm CTT). No toe overlap problems for me, with size 9.5 (US) feet and toe clips. Yes, it has a fairly relaxed head tube angle, and reasonably large fork rake. It's a very comfortable frame to ride, even though it's not constructed of DB tubing. The chainstays aren't all that long (43 cm), so it's nothing like a Long Haul Trucker.
wears 700C rims (23 mm wide) with a 36 mm front tire and fenders (now). Top tube length is only 57 cm, and it's a tall frame (63 cm CTT). No toe overlap problems for me, with size 9.5 (US) feet and toe clips. Yes, it has a fairly relaxed head tube angle, and reasonably large fork rake. It's a very comfortable frame to ride, even though it's not constructed of DB tubing. The chainstays aren't all that long (43 cm), so it's nothing like a Long Haul Trucker.
09-18-16, 03:08 AM
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I don't understand all the concern here about toe overlap. This old frame from the 60s
wears 700C rims (23 mm wide) with a 36 mm front tire and fenders (now). Top tube length is only 57 cm, and it's a tall frame (63 cm CTT). No toe overlap problems for me, with size 9.5 (US) feet and toe clips. Yes, it has a fairly relaxed head tube angle, and reasonably large fork rake. It's a very comfortable frame to ride, even though it's not constructed of DB tubing. The chainstays aren't all that long (43 cm), so it's nothing like a Long Haul Trucker.
wears 700C rims (23 mm wide) with a 36 mm front tire and fenders (now). Top tube length is only 57 cm, and it's a tall frame (63 cm CTT). No toe overlap problems for me, with size 9.5 (US) feet and toe clips. Yes, it has a fairly relaxed head tube angle, and reasonably large fork rake. It's a very comfortable frame to ride, even though it's not constructed of DB tubing. The chainstays aren't all that long (43 cm), so it's nothing like a Long Haul Trucker.
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09-18-16, 06:29 AM
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I don't understand all the concern here about toe overlap. This old frame from the 60s
wears 700C rims (23 mm wide) with a 36 mm front tire and fenders (now). Top tube length is only 57 cm, and it's a tall frame (63 cm CTT). No toe overlap problems for me, with size 9.5 (US) feet and toe clips. Yes, it has a fairly relaxed head tube angle, and reasonably large fork rake. It's a very comfortable frame to ride, even though it's not constructed of DB tubing. The chainstays aren't all that long (43 cm), so it's nothing like a Long Haul Trucker.
wears 700C rims (23 mm wide) with a 36 mm front tire and fenders (now). Top tube length is only 57 cm, and it's a tall frame (63 cm CTT). No toe overlap problems for me, with size 9.5 (US) feet and toe clips. Yes, it has a fairly relaxed head tube angle, and reasonably large fork rake. It's a very comfortable frame to ride, even though it's not constructed of DB tubing. The chainstays aren't all that long (43 cm), so it's nothing like a Long Haul Trucker.
No issues with overlap either, but everything I own is a 57 or a 58 tt.
57 or a 58 st.
The smaller sizes can give people fits with overlap, but I hardly think that's a deal breaker when you get used to it. My wife's new bike will be a 650b and she rides a 55 tt or so. All reports on her new bike indicate zero issues with the NFE.
09-18-16, 07:33 AM
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My wife's bike has toe overlap. She isn't all that skilled so when she discovered, I thought she would call it a deal breaker. I told her it's no big deal since you only hit the wheel at very low speed. She said OK and has been OK ever since then.
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09-18-16, 08:47 AM
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Guy goes to the doctor and says "Doc, my shoulder hurts when I raise my arm over my head"
The doctor replies "You should stop raising your arm over your head"
Guy goes into a bike shop and says "Mechanic, my outside foot hits my fender when I make sharp turns at low speeds"
The mechanic replies "You should stop making sharp turns at low speeds with your outside foot forward"
I don't know if this qualifies as a classic brevet bike, but does take 38C tires with fenders
The doctor replies "You should stop raising your arm over your head"
Guy goes into a bike shop and says "Mechanic, my outside foot hits my fender when I make sharp turns at low speeds"
The mechanic replies "You should stop making sharp turns at low speeds with your outside foot forward"
I don't know if this qualifies as a classic brevet bike, but does take 38C tires with fenders
09-18-16, 08:58 AM
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I used to think toe clip overlap was way over-rated, never had an issue with it...until I started riding on gravel. Climbing on a surface that requires constant corrections at low speed is unnerving with it. So outside of body proportion, intended used is an important consideration.
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09-18-16, 09:33 AM
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I used to think toe clip overlap was way over-rated, never had an issue with it...until I started riding on gravel. Climbing on a surface that requires constant corrections at low speed is unnerving with it. So outside of body proportion, intended used is an important consideration.
Agree 100%!!!
09-18-16, 10:12 AM
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I run XTs with Sidi Dragons.
No fenders if I can help it.
My Bilenky here has 700x45s with no toe overlap.
We just finished a three day, two hundred fifty-six mile ride from Ely near the Canadian border to St. Paul, MN.
Nearly 100% gravel.
Six of us did the ride.
No fenders, all Compass, Resist or Soma tires.
All traveled without luggage/baggage.
Lots of water though.
Luckily, no one had issues with overlap that I can recall.
Bilenky after the Ely to St.Paul ride. 256 miles, 3 days in the saddle and lots of grit in the teeth. by gomango1849, on Flickr
Bilenky after the Ely to St.Paul ride. 256 miles, 3 days in the saddle and lots of grit in the teeth. by gomango1849, on Flickr
This was the beginning of the trip. 14 miles on a snowmobile trail.
Gnarly!
IMG_2029 by gomango1849, on Flickr
No fenders if I can help it.
My Bilenky here has 700x45s with no toe overlap.
We just finished a three day, two hundred fifty-six mile ride from Ely near the Canadian border to St. Paul, MN.
Nearly 100% gravel.
Six of us did the ride.
No fenders, all Compass, Resist or Soma tires.
All traveled without luggage/baggage.
Lots of water though.
Luckily, no one had issues with overlap that I can recall.
Bilenky after the Ely to St.Paul ride. 256 miles, 3 days in the saddle and lots of grit in the teeth. by gomango1849, on FlickrBilenky after the Ely to St.Paul ride. 256 miles, 3 days in the saddle and lots of grit in the teeth. by gomango1849, on FlickrThis was the beginning of the trip. 14 miles on a snowmobile trail.
Gnarly!
IMG_2029 by gomango1849, on Flickr
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09-18-16, 10:18 AM
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@ op
Another possible road map for your builder.
Snap of a sweet Curt Goodrich from a local show.
Sorry it's so dark.
Untitled by gomango1849, on Flickr
Untitled by gomango1849, on Flickr
Another possible road map for your builder.
Snap of a sweet Curt Goodrich from a local show.
Sorry it's so dark.
Untitled by gomango1849, on FlickrUntitled by gomango1849, on Flickr
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09-18-16, 10:37 AM
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It's not a rando bike, but my "fast" bike is a Shogun 300 with 700Cx35 Panaracer Pasela PTs
09-18-16, 11:07 AM
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Wellgo LU-A52, also sold as the Black Ops B52. I have Wellgo-branded ones on two bikes, and Black Ops on the Shogun.
LU-A52 - Wellgo
Black Ops B52 Pedals - 9/16" Black
LU-A52 - Wellgo
Black Ops B52 Pedals - 9/16" Black
09-18-16, 11:10 AM
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Wellgo LU-A52, also sold as the Black Ops B52. I have Wellgo-branded ones on two bikes, and Black Ops on the Shogun.
LU-A52 - Wellgo
Black Ops B52 Pedals - 9/16" Black
LU-A52 - Wellgo
Black Ops B52 Pedals - 9/16" Black
We have two loaner bikes here with crappy pedals and yours look like just the ticket.
Again, nice bike!
09-18-16, 11:24 AM
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The pedals are great, too...I always wear Dr. Martens, and find these pedals quite comfortable under my feet - moreso than the MKS "sneaker" pedals, and the cartridge bearings are relatively easy to replace when they wear out.
09-18-16, 02:27 PM
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That AHH looks like an ultimate all arounder.
Maybe the op should consider one of those.
One of the guys my son rides with has one.
Has a Swift Ozette on the front, other than that looks like yours.
09-18-16, 02:37 PM
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I've always like Grant Peterson's advertising copy. This line is from the Homer Hilsen webpage: "All in all, it combines the best of a late-'60s road bike with the best modern materials and craftsmanship."
Road bikes up through the 60s did have lots of clearance for fat tires. I have a 1960 olmo gran sport with weinmann center pull brakes. It would have no problems with 32c tires and fenders. I have a 2000 soma double-cross. It can fit 32c tires and fenders but I had to cut some of the fender material away to let the front derailleur to move back and forth. Go figure.
The OP wants pretty fat tires. The Homer Hilsen will do it as it is designed for tires between 32 and 43 mm.
Road bikes up through the 60s did have lots of clearance for fat tires. I have a 1960 olmo gran sport with weinmann center pull brakes. It would have no problems with 32c tires and fenders. I have a 2000 soma double-cross. It can fit 32c tires and fenders but I had to cut some of the fender material away to let the front derailleur to move back and forth. Go figure.
The OP wants pretty fat tires. The Homer Hilsen will do it as it is designed for tires between 32 and 43 mm.
09-18-16, 02:58 PM
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@mariachi: in Germany I don't know who can help you, but in France there are again more builders offering custom bicycles. One list can be found for instance here : Où peut-on encore trouver des cadres acier? - Page 19 - Vélotaf.com: Pédaler utile, vivre mieux.
09-18-16, 08:26 PM
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I don't understand all the concern here about toe overlap. This old frame from the 60s wears 700C rims (23 mm wide) with a 36 mm front tire and fenders (now). Top tube length is only 57 cm, and it's a tall frame (63 cm CTT). No toe overlap problems for me, with size 9.5 (US) feet and toe clips. Yes, it has a fairly relaxed head tube angle, and reasonably large fork rake. It's a very comfortable frame to ride, even though it's not constructed of DB tubing. The chainstays aren't all that long (43 cm), so it's nothing like a Long Haul Trucker.
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