Help required in Identifying my vintage RALEIGH Bike!!
11-06-16, 04:59 AM
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Help required in Identifying my vintage RALEIGH Bike!!
Hi All,
I am "Muthu Kumar Kanakachalam" from India
52 years / Married / Engineering graduate , have Tiny sector Automobile( 4 wheeler) servicing center, my hobby collecting Vintage & classic Motorcycles ..have few motor bikes and few Bicycles !!
Picked This RALEIGH (frame#6276 DN) recently , a pure Bone stock Machine, just seat missing from the previous owner, nothing have been dismantled till date from the factory , including Tires (26.0 X 1 3/4 for S7), Seems like Bike was out of road for at least 25 years , for Non availability of TIRES in India from then till Now !!
With my limited knowledge on Bicycles ..initially thought it was *ROLLFAST*, but after seeing in flesh couldn't believe this is Unadulterated RALEIGH BICYCLE !!
As a newbie to this forum , dunno were to post my query , thought this is the appropriate thread ..hence ....
post script:- Moderators may shift my post elsewhere if I were wrong
Thanks in advance !!
regards
KMK
Edit :- Front wheel i Dynohub & rear a 3 speed Sturmy Archer dated 1956
I am "Muthu Kumar Kanakachalam" from India
52 years / Married / Engineering graduate , have Tiny sector Automobile( 4 wheeler) servicing center, my hobby collecting Vintage & classic Motorcycles ..have few motor bikes and few Bicycles !!
Picked This RALEIGH (frame#6276 DN) recently , a pure Bone stock Machine, just seat missing from the previous owner, nothing have been dismantled till date from the factory , including Tires (26.0 X 1 3/4 for S7), Seems like Bike was out of road for at least 25 years , for Non availability of TIRES in India from then till Now !!
With my limited knowledge on Bicycles ..initially thought it was *ROLLFAST*, but after seeing in flesh couldn't believe this is Unadulterated RALEIGH BICYCLE !!
As a newbie to this forum , dunno were to post my query , thought this is the appropriate thread ..hence ....
post script:- Moderators may shift my post elsewhere if I were wrong
Thanks in advance !!
regards
KMK
Edit :- Front wheel i Dynohub & rear a 3 speed Sturmy Archer dated 1956
Last edited by powertwin; 11-06-16 at 05:02 AM. Reason: Typo
11-06-16, 06:36 AM
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Welcome to the forum ! That is an interesting bike. I have never seen a model like that. Would help if we could get some good close ups of the major areas of the bike.
What does the headbadge say, look like?
What does the headbadge say, look like?
11-06-16, 08:10 AM
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If that's a Raleigh, it's of a frame type I've never seen from them before. The frame looks like a typical American "balloon tire" cruiser type common between the mid 1930's and the mid 1950's. Does the shifter say "Sturmey Archer"? If it does not, then it is NOT a Raleigh, no matter what the headbadge says. What do the cranks look like? If they are cottered 3-piece cranks, with a 26 tpi bottom bracket, it's probably a Raleigh. If it's a 1 piece Ashtabula crank, then it's American. We need a lot of close-up pics......
11-06-16, 08:35 AM
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If you enlarge the pic of the shifter it clearly says Sturmey Archer and 3 Speed.
11-06-16, 08:55 AM
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OK, still need to see the cranks. SA sold hubs to a lot of international companies. Raleigh cranks are invariably 3-arm steel, cottered, with no shoulder on the drive side cup.
11-06-16, 05:30 PM
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FWIW, although we never saw such a bike in the USA, I would assume that "American style" bikes had a market domestically, and probably could sell for less than American bikes would, but would probably not in the USA. We were buying their workingman's bikes because they were lighter, reliable, and simple. An expensive knockoff of an American bike would probably sell poorly.
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Doesn't look like a 1 pc crank to me.
11-06-16, 07:58 PM
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That's an interesting bike you don't see many if any true cantilever framed Ralieghs in the US or England, because of Schwinns patents on design. Yours looks to be 50's-60's Indian built Raliegh hard to tell actual age since they made this style for the Indian/Asian market for several decades with almost no changes.
11-06-16, 08:33 PM
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The Fork crown, too doesn't match Raleigh pattern with the "Thimbles". Twin cantilever frames were widely available outside the US. I had a Czech made Favorite with the same frame style.
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@powertwin, I think we could help more if we had better photos. The best way to add photos is to put them on another site, like Flickr or another photo hosting site, and just post a link here.
From the little I see, I think your rear wheel has 40 spokes and front wheel 32, so I'm willing to believe Raleigh.
From the little I see, I think your rear wheel has 40 spokes and front wheel 32, so I'm willing to believe Raleigh.
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11-08-16, 08:31 AM
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..yaeh could feel the poor picture quality & size , well let me try to post the images through a photo sharing site >
Once again Thanks for the Heads up Friends !!
11-08-16, 08:45 AM
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If that's a Raleigh, it's of a frame type I've never seen from them before. The frame looks like a typical American "balloon tire" cruiser type common between the mid 1930's and the mid 1950's. Does the shifter say "Sturmey Archer"? If it does not, then it is NOT a Raleigh, no matter what the headbadge says. What do the cranks look like? If they are cottered 3-piece cranks, with a 26 tpi bottom bracket, it's probably a Raleigh. If it's a 1 piece Ashtabula crank, then it's American. We need a lot of close-up pics......
FRAME # 6276 DN>>>
Front Wheel is HUB DYNAMO & 32 spokes >>
Rim Size 26 X 1 3/4 >>
About CRANK >>>>
...Raleigh Logo ( For sure , it haven't been dismantled even once till date ) >>
REAR Mudguard wide & notice the Raleigh Nottingham Decals ( transfers from Factory) >>
....& with factory Paint & Frame's Main Raleigh Decal >>
.....Images to be continued ..Cheers
11-08-16, 09:13 AM
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That's an interesting bike you don't see many if any true cantilever framed Ralieghs in the US or England, because of Schwinns patents on design. Yours looks to be 50's-60's Indian built Raliegh hard to tell actual age since they made this style for the Indian/Asian market for several decades with almost no changes.
...Well India's CCIL ( Cycle corporation of India ltd) , Never made these types of Bikes , There was a short lived * Street Cat*..with Camel back frame , but not like this one ...
..& the previous Owner says that he brought it from Singapore at late '50 s , which was gifted by his Boss ( A English Man)...eventually he rode it happily for few years in India and laid to rest , when he couldn't source TIRES ( 26 X1 3/4 )
Even those Wire metal tags haven't been removed once >>>
Strumy Archer 3 speed says 1956 , though I couldn't capture close up pics >>>
Handle Bar ,Brake lever & Yoke has the RALEIGH Logo ( sorry for the poor pic quality ..my Macro mode sucks )>>
>>>
Quiet interesting those Ballon type HAND GRIPS , probably stocK >>>
11-08-16, 09:22 AM
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@powertwin, I think we could help more if we had better photos. The best way to add photos is to put them on another site, like Flickr or another photo hosting site, and just post a link here.
From the little I see, I think your rear wheel has 40 spokes and front wheel 32, so I'm willing to believe Raleigh.
From the little I see, I think your rear wheel has 40 spokes and front wheel 32, so I'm willing to believe Raleigh.
.....Front Wheel has *32 Spokes*( Hub dynamo -SA) & rear Wheel has 40 spokes with 3 speed SA- with Age script as 1956!!
......& Still with Factory decals of RALEIGH Nottingham >>
.....Some more close ups ..Sir >>>
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FWIW, tires are still available for that size. I would bet that somebody in the US or GB would be willing to pay somewhere in the range of $400 or more for it.
11-08-16, 06:35 PM
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I'd like to know too...
11-08-16, 07:27 PM
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Possibly a Raleigh Lancer
https://www.flickr.com/photos/msubik...7603130581899/
https://www.thechainlink.org/forum/to...raleigh-lancer
https://www.bikeforums.net/13899688-post16.html
https://www.flickr.com/photos/msubik...7603130581899/
https://www.thechainlink.org/forum/to...raleigh-lancer
https://www.bikeforums.net/13899688-post16.html
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11-09-16, 06:10 AM
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----{Possibly a Raleigh Lancer**----
..Thanks a Ton 9olt..LANCER it is , but I Could see few differences to your restored Bike & Mine ( Thanks for the detailed Pics from FLICKR)
Would like to Know more about the HISTORY of this * Raleigh -LANCER*
PS:- Still Those 26X1 3/4 Tires are Not available in India, Hence have Ordered a Pair of KENDA White Wall tires from Harris Cyclery /USA..also please let me know the availability status of RALEIGH water decals as in your Bikee..I love it !! Super
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