kalash74

Someone gifted me a VO Copenhagen dual leg stand for Christmas. I notice that when I mount it, the shifter cable for my rear derailleur rubs on the bottom of the stand so that it now travels at an angle (see pic below). Is this a cause for concern? Should I go with a rear left chainstay kickstand instead?

smoothness 

i can't see the picture, but generally speaking you should not have your bare derailleur rubbing against anything when not covered by the housing.

rootboy 

You mean...someone gave it to you?

lostarchitect 

The use of the word "gifted" is huge right now, and I just don't get it. If someone gave you something for Christmas, I already know it was a gift.

noglider 

For centuries, English speakers have been turning nouns into verbs. The new trend is to turn verbs into nouns. For example, people say, "What is your ask?" instead of "What are you asking for?" or "What is your request?" So now gift has become a verb.

Grand Bois

I've never heard anyone say that. Maybe it's a New York thing.

noglider 

Which have you not heard, ask or gift? The term "regifted" was used on Seinfeld a few years ago, so gift as a verb is not that new, nor is it regional (any more, if it was).

kalash74

Sorry the pics didn't work. Just fixed it above. I'll leave aside the conversation about the proper use of 'gift' and return to my original question: Will the wire rubbing against the kickstand plate cause any problems with shifting? Incidentally, the front shifter wire rubs the bottom bracket shell--it just doesn't run at a sharp angle like the wire over the kickstand (see pics for details).

SkyDog75

The shift cable rubbing the kickstand base won't cause any problems with shifting. And it isn't a problem for shift cables to rub on other surfaces unless you're bothered by the wear on that other surface the cable will eventually cause. Your bottom bracket cable guides are a case in point; you mentioned you've already got metal-to-metal contact there and I'd be willing to guess it's never caused you a problem. The kickstand may cause even less wear on your cable since the base is presumably made of soft aluminum.

And to dip my toe into the "gift" conversation... It's been proper to use the word as a verb for a long time, if not common. My 1924 edition of Webster's New International Dictionary has an entry for that precise usage.

lostarchitect 

Some times these changes make sense, and sometimes they just sound wrong. This is the latter, IMO. It is a trend which I don't expect to last.

wschruba

If the dragging cable on the kickstand plate bothers you, you can always knock the corner off with a course file.

It's easiest to do with the kickstand mounted in a vise, of course. Powdering the file with talcum before use will help keep it from packing up with aluminum.

Grand Bois

I've never heard ask used as a noun. I quoted post about that word and not someone else's post about "gifted".

I think that "Regifted" has become part of the language.

You couldn't have picked a much worse example of non-New York regional speak than Seinfeld.

noglider 

@lostarchitect, I don't like it, either. I'm reporting it as I observe it.

@Grand Bois, I'm not claiming that Seinfeld represents New York. But a lot that the series coined found its way into the American lexicon. As my wife and I say, there is a Seinfeld episode that applies to every situation in life, like the Torah.

Centaurious

That thing will crush your chain-stays and destroy your frame since it doesn't have a kickstand plate. You best toss it in the garbage now and go back to dropping your bike in the dirt where it can lay around like a drunk or lean against a wall like a two-bit wino.

Grand Bois

We now have a thread with "ask" used as a noun in the title.


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