becave7

Hello. First post on the forums.

I just received an 87 560 with the Shimano 600EX group set, but the rear wheel and freewheel is incorrect. Could somebody please tell me what set up is on the rear? Gears, hub, etc. I know it came with a Matrix Titan 32H rear rim but not sure what the gearing was or even what would work today. I would be really cool to get one of the originals to match the front but cost is a serious issue. Everything else on it is original!

Thank You all for any help getting me on the road again. Brian

cb400bill

Thread moved from Appraisals to Classic & Vintage.

bikemig 

The vintage trek site has all the info you want:

Vintage Trek Bikes- Information on Steel Road Bicycles made by the Trek Bicycle Corporation, bike

What's wrong with your current set up? Mismatched wheels would drive me a bit nutty but I wouldn't sweat having all the parts of my bike being original spec. YMMV on that though.

Mr. 66

I've got an aqua 560, mine has the 105 grouping with Maillard hubs.

OldsCOOL

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Wildwood 

Being less ocd makes life simpler.
Not necessarily better.


Welcome to BF @becave7.
Get on the road again, even with mismatched wheels, which is secondary to riding.

bikemig 

Be gentle; the OP is a newbie,

richard4993

I just picked up an 88 560 in the Agua green color. It's in pristine condition and looks to be all original except for the Liberator saddle.I'll hopefully get it on the road by the spring. Have two more bikes to finish up and then it will get new tires and tubes and a cleaning.

becave7

Thanks for the welcome!

Mismatched parts don't bother me too much. I ride trials mountain bikes which are nothing but mismatched parts put together to make a bike you can beat on.

I rode an 88 aqua 1000 for about 3 years as my main transport and loved it. Never gave me any trouble and I replaced the stock rear derailleur with race short shifter.

This bike came with a Bontrager Fairlane rear with and 8 speed cassette that does not fit correctly. It is so wide, I could barely get it off of the bike. I'm afraid it will hurt the frame because it has to be spread so far to get the wheel on. That's really the only reason I need to get the rear replaced. Having original spec would just be really cool because everything else is original stock.

Pics to come soon but looks really sad right now with no tires, tubes, or even rim tape. The saddle is bare as well and needs replacing. It will probably get a new set of cables and housings but I've never done that before.

Thanks for all the advice and help. I'll be pouring over the Vintage Trek site now. Honestly I thought that was taken down and while ago so didn't even bother looking.

bikemig 

The bike is likely 126 mm in the rear; your wheel is likely 130 mm. No big deal to push apart the drop outs on a steel bike 2 mm per side like this. Over time that will become easier. If the rear wheel is 135 mm, then this is a lot tougher to do.

becave7

Looks about the same as the OP in the 560EX pro thread. Just a lot more nicks and small rust spots.

becave7

Yes that's exactly what it is. Maybe I'll just get the tires on and ride it for a while. First time in many years on a road bike so I'm really looking forward to it. Although riding on roads in NM is sketchy at best.

OldsCOOL

We'll break em in right.

becave7

Yes this thread is severely lacking in pictures!

Classtime 

My son's 85? 560 had a 600 group with 600 hubs laced to these Ambrosio aero jobs with bladed spokes. He has since crashed it, tacked the front wheel and ruined the frame. But if I was replacing the rims, I'd get some silver Velocity Fusions with new bladed silver spokes.

becave7

Wow very nice! too bad the frame is ruined, that's the best part. It's an '86 according to the trek site and brochures. I'm going to try to find a testors enamel model paint that matches the ecru color of the 87 pro. Apparently it came in a grey metallic black fade with white decals... ooooh.

As much as I couldn't stand the tan cars of the 80's, it looks really nice on the Trek frame. Classy.

becave7

Some photos at last!

The frame has quite a bit of scaring and surface rust, but is so light and sturdy, it's easy to look past. A few new and used parts sitting on the bare plastic seat for photo ops.

There seemed to be many advancements in components offered during this time period, so it's a little weird to pin some stuff down, like a lot of these were only made for one year. I managed to find the correct rear sprocket set, 6208 freewheel, and 126 mm 6207 freewheel rear hub that came with the original, all in one week through ebay and local city run bicycle center. Very lucky. This year seemed to have a few variations of rear hub design.

Also found a Matrix Titan-Tech black rim that closely matches the Titan front, and bought a set of spokes... now to lace it up. This will be a first!

OldsCOOL

Your 560 will be a thrill to ride. I have an '86 760 Pro Series and have owned a 460, the '85 entry level racer. Classic Treks are very well loved and in many cases will be quite valuable. One thing you may have noticed is the variation between bike and brochure that makes it difficult to pin down a "factory stock" bike. The brochures give a disclaimer near the bottom but really seems to be the norm for swapping. My 760 has parts from the previous years more than likely to get them out of the bin. In your case it would be great to build it like a brochure model to preserve some history of the line. I look forward to reading of your progress on the 560, a great riding and snappy little racer.

exmechanic89

It would be easy to find a rear wheel with the proper spacing on CL, for cheap. They're all over the place if you keep your eyes open. Might not be an exact match to the front wheel but will likely be very similar. While it's true you can spread the rear triangle a bit, it's not something I'd do to any of my bikes.

becave7

I thought about just going up to 130 but I really want to keep this as stock as possible (6 rear 2 front). My first "real" bike was a 1988 light blue Trek 1000 and rode that for nearly 10 years. I can't even remember the tire sets put on that bike. Not once did I ever have to adjust anything once setup correctly, and I rode all over Bellingham WA and also SF, so it saw plenty of hills and rough terrain.

I got the butterflies the first time I picked up this beater 560 because it felt so much like my long gone 1000. Small 531 frame, bulletproof smooth components, and the right tires made such a nimble bike that could be hopped up curbs, and also cruise at such a buttery speed that the whole world seemed to stop. It was all about the feel.

becave7

I spent about 45 minutes last night lacing up my first wheel and i came out perfect so far. It is not at full tension yet due to not having access to a truing stand. Part of the reason no other progress was made, is because the bike center has been closed all week and I don't have all the tools at home. And I've been messing with a 70's 50 cm Gitane frame setup for my son

The photo was taken before I tightened all of the nipples so they just cover the last thread. Hopefully it won't blow up before it gets mounted!

becave7

Finally made some progress on this 560EX. Trued up the rear wheel and got the proper freewheel installed. Replaced the brake cables and housings, not the original blue ones, I spent those funds on my first Brooks saddle, a B17 Narrow.

I'm going to the shop today to do an overhaul of the BB, headset, brakes, front hub, etc. Possibly new shifter cables and blue bar tape.

Chombi

During the mid 80's, IIRC, Trek was using Maillard Helicomatic rear hubs on a lot of their mid level bikes. I think the were still using them when even Peugeot started to phase them out of their bikes. I remember noticing Trek dealers in my area in the mid 80's were selling Helicomatic hubsets like candy in bins and baskets. Trek must have bought a whole warehouse full of the hubs. I was thinking that if the Trek bike has mismatched wheels with the front hub maybe a Maillard, the PO might have caged the rear wheel to get rid of the Helicomatic rear hub, as it had a reputation of prematurely eating it's undersized bearings.....

0.2HP

My 87 Trek 560:







Pulled out of the trash after the real triangle and wheel (apparently) got run over. Since I had to straighten the back of the frame anyway, and the original rear wheel was toast, I spread it to 130 mm at the same time. Currently running an 8 speed cassette that happen to be on a wheel I had lieing around, and friction shifting with the sprockets so close together requires a fine touch. I rode it for a couple years until I needed the seat post for another bike. Reading this post has motivated me to get the 560 back on the road. (More motivated than I am to clean the basement or get a better camera.)

A little late to the party here, but the OP ask what the original rear wheel/hub/free wheel. The (trashed) original is a Matrix Titan rin, Sansin sealed hup, Shimano MF Z-012 free wheel, and what looks like a 6 speed Uniglide 13-24 cassette.

becave7

Combi: I just saw one of those at the city bike shop! Seems like a good idea in principle, but maybe not in practice.

0.2HP: That is the same color as my 88 1000, which got ran over by a trailer and bent the front wheel. Everything else was good on it and we were moving so I sold it. Should have never done that, but...

They are great rides and hope you get your's going again, looks like a short list to get that done.

Yours is the 560 Pro Series with the 105 group, according to the catalog. My Ecru Trek is the 560EX with the 600EX groups set, and the rear hub would have been different than yours. So far it matches the catalog exactly for that year.

I serviced the strange bottom bracket "sealed" very caged bearings as much as possible tonight, replaced derailleur cables, cleaned rear derailleur, adjusted the indexing SIS shifting (sweet when it works!) Really need to find the original pedal cages and toe clips and especially the 600EX brake hoods. They look a lot more like the solid 600AX levers, than the billeted EX levers I see online.