1970s Raleigh Super Course Mixte
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Does Shimano still do cup and cone?
Just curious, if you were going to build new wheels for a mid-70s Raleigh, what hubs would you use?
You mentioned that you enjoy building the occasional wheel. Me too. I recently took possession of 4 rims: 2 new Ambrosio and 2 Nisi Sludi, which are very cute and 390 grams (weighed them). There are 4 CR18s and a couple Velocity Dyad rims (40h) headed this way, too. Going to have to spend the money I was saving for those Record high flange on some spokes.
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@desconhecido, I might consider a freehub. They're just better in pretty much every way. But if you want to keep your freewheel for some reason, you could find a mid-range hub, either old or new. @ascherer used Shimano hubs from the late 70s or early 80s on his new (old) Raleigh International. They were about the same price as the Normandys but much better.
Shimano hubs are all cup and cone, I believe. Surprising, isn't it? But it's a rational choice.
If you really want a wheel to have a chance of lasting (allowing that rims sometimes get smashed and spokes sometimes become fatigued), it's best to start with the best hubs you can afford. This is one place where I might want to stretch my budget, more than for things like derailleurs and brakes. Derailleurs are only used for a few seconds each ride. Hubs are used all the time.
And I agree that mixtes look goofy with drop bars. They seemed like a good idea at the time, but ...
Shimano hubs are all cup and cone, I believe. Surprising, isn't it? But it's a rational choice.
If you really want a wheel to have a chance of lasting (allowing that rims sometimes get smashed and spokes sometimes become fatigued), it's best to start with the best hubs you can afford. This is one place where I might want to stretch my budget, more than for things like derailleurs and brakes. Derailleurs are only used for a few seconds each ride. Hubs are used all the time.
And I agree that mixtes look goofy with drop bars. They seemed like a good idea at the time, but ...
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[MENTION=188405]@ascherer used Shimano hubs from the late 70s or early 80s on his new (old) Raleigh International. They were about the same price as the Normandys but much better.
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I sold a frame and fork exactly like yours for $35. It ended up on Ebay as a fixie with deep V rims with a BIN price of $350. I didn't bother to see if it sold. I kind of regret selling it, but I was trying to raise money for another project.
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