Tubular to Tubeless converseion
03-01-17, 04:45 PM
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Ah.....tubular clinchers......has the worst aspects of both tubulars and clinchers, with few of the positives.....
03-05-17, 01:55 PM
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I have tried them --- if I had clincher wheels i'd rather run an open tubular type tire with a good rim strip and latex tubes
That said, - most of us C&V'ers are a little quirky (some of us a lot quirky) - so whats good for me may be unfathomable for someone else
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I concur on both those statements. 
That said, I'll take the Tufo C-S33 'tubular for clincher' for all around use, longevity and its robustness. No pinch flats with advantage of saving the rim in those rare cases of catching a pot hole edge. Just speaking from usage and comparison.
One other observation is how near perfect construction those Tufo tubular for clincher really are. Never any odd humps, no runout and feel glass smooth. They're are to be run at high PSI but for grins on some older and worn, I've experimented and intentionally abused them by running at lower, squat pressures. No issues and gobble the road just fine.
The red rubber formula are just right for extreme high temp tarmac. I've had many other tires that breakdown or rubber is prematurely wears in the very high temp roads. The downside - the C-S33 are less confident in wet or cold temps.
That said, I'll take the Tufo C-S33 'tubular for clincher' for all around use, longevity and its robustness. No pinch flats with advantage of saving the rim in those rare cases of catching a pot hole edge. Just speaking from usage and comparison.
One other observation is how near perfect construction those Tufo tubular for clincher really are. Never any odd humps, no runout and feel glass smooth. They're are to be run at high PSI but for grins on some older and worn, I've experimented and intentionally abused them by running at lower, squat pressures. No issues and gobble the road just fine.
The red rubber formula are just right for extreme high temp tarmac. I've had many other tires that breakdown or rubber is prematurely wears in the very high temp roads. The downside - the C-S33 are less confident in wet or cold temps.
03-05-17, 02:34 PM
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I have a Tufo tubular clincher on my winter beater bike. Came mounted on a decent Campagnolo wheel that I scored at a yard sale.
Seems to ride OK, but as much as I respect Tufo, and I regularly buy their products, a tubular clincher is an absurd concept. It essentially takes a tubular tire - so far fine - and it mates it with the inferior clincher rim.
The clincher rim is the overwhelming weakness of the clincher system. Not the tire: the rim. Clincher rims are heavy, fragile/susceptible to road impacts, and they cause pinch flats. Plus scary dangerous in the event of a sudden tire deflation. Plus they can only handle a narrow range of inflation pressures.
To repeat: clincher tires are fine. But clincher rims have an insurmountable disadvantage relative to tubular rims.
When the Tufo flats out, I'll discard it and not look back. Spring is coming, and soon I'll be back on real tubulars full time anyway.
Seems to ride OK, but as much as I respect Tufo, and I regularly buy their products, a tubular clincher is an absurd concept. It essentially takes a tubular tire - so far fine - and it mates it with the inferior clincher rim.
The clincher rim is the overwhelming weakness of the clincher system. Not the tire: the rim. Clincher rims are heavy, fragile/susceptible to road impacts, and they cause pinch flats. Plus scary dangerous in the event of a sudden tire deflation. Plus they can only handle a narrow range of inflation pressures.
To repeat: clincher tires are fine. But clincher rims have an insurmountable disadvantage relative to tubular rims.
When the Tufo flats out, I'll discard it and not look back. Spring is coming, and soon I'll be back on real tubulars full time anyway.
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